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	<title>Comments on: Toronto&#8217;s Catcher Bonanza: Buck, Castro, Chavez</title>
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		<title>By: Ryan P</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/torontos-catcher-bonanza-buck-castro-chavez/#comment-114325</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wallace is a better fit than Taylor for the organization in both the short and long-term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wallace is a better fit than Taylor for the organization in both the short and long-term.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Tuttle</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/torontos-catcher-bonanza-buck-castro-chavez/#comment-114298</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Tuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Castro has been convicted of indecent assault, no? I&#039;m having a hard time with that as a fan of the team even if there&#039;d been no C on the 40 this time a week ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Castro has been convicted of indecent assault, no? I&#8217;m having a hard time with that as a fan of the team even if there&#8217;d been no C on the 40 this time a week ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel B</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/torontos-catcher-bonanza-buck-castro-chavez/#comment-114243</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve found Anthopoulos&#039;s moves to be interesting if nothing else so far. I liked the Halladay coup especially considering it was for one year. Didn&#039;t so much like the Taylor for Wallace deal, but the Jays have coveted Wallace for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve found Anthopoulos&#8217;s moves to be interesting if nothing else so far. I liked the Halladay coup especially considering it was for one year. Didn&#8217;t so much like the Taylor for Wallace deal, but the Jays have coveted Wallace for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cartwright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cartwright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Oliver projections have Damon +7 in LF, +3 in CF.

By year, the last 3 seasons ratings (not projections) are +3, +5, +9 in LF, and from 2006 to 2008 -1, +7, +1 in CF

In LF, the Marcel weighted mean of the past 3 seasons has Damon allowing 13 fewer hits and 19 fewer TB than expected, 1 fewer hits and 10 fewer TB in CF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Oliver projections have Damon +7 in LF, +3 in CF.</p>
<p>By year, the last 3 seasons ratings (not projections) are +3, +5, +9 in LF, and from 2006 to 2008 -1, +7, +1 in CF</p>
<p>In LF, the Marcel weighted mean of the past 3 seasons has Damon allowing 13 fewer hits and 19 fewer TB than expected, 1 fewer hits and 10 fewer TB in CF.</p>
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		<title>By: glassSheets</title>
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		<dc:creator>glassSheets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 02:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I got a lot of problems with you people! And now you&#039;re gonna hear about it!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I got a lot of problems with you people! And now you&#8217;re gonna hear about it!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Klaassen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Klaassen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops... here&#039;s a link to Jeff&#039;s UZR projections

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/11/14/1157186/2010-uzr-projections</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops&#8230; here&#8217;s a link to Jeff&#8217;s UZR projections</p>
<p><a href="http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/11/14/1157186/2010-uzr-projections" rel="nofollow">http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/11/14/1157186/2010-uzr-projections</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt Klaassen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Klaassen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t speak for Sean/Rally (and if he or someone else more knowledgeable about these things is reading feel free to jump in), but TotalZone is sometimes going to differ from UZR significantly, especially in the case of outfield defense. Damon has only seen recently significant time in left starting in 2008, and only full-time in 2009. I don&#039;t know if Rally incorporates other OF position in his projections (I think he has in the past when he did ZR/RZR-based projections), or what the past TotalZone data says. For 2008, TotalZone has Damon&#039;s range at +14 (-2 arm), for 2009 it&#039;s +6 (average arm). Now, the Fans Scouting Report and UZR for those years obviously disagree, and that why one should look at multiple sources. 

Jeff Zimmerman&#039;s UZR-based projections have Damon as -1 in LF -- they&#039;re regressed and age-adjusted. One cool thing Jeff (and Rally, I guess) could add would be something like a Marcels relibillity score, it&#039;s pretty easy, when I was messing with defensive projections, I did it.

Anyway, keep in mind, everyone that this is very different than measuring catcher defense (each has their challenges), and also that (as I understand it) outfield range ratings tend to have larger error bars than for the infield... I haven&#039;t done a study, but just in browsing in the past, I&#039;ve noticed more variance between TotalZone and UZR in the OF than in IF positions. But again, I defer to others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t speak for Sean/Rally (and if he or someone else more knowledgeable about these things is reading feel free to jump in), but TotalZone is sometimes going to differ from UZR significantly, especially in the case of outfield defense. Damon has only seen recently significant time in left starting in 2008, and only full-time in 2009. I don&#8217;t know if Rally incorporates other OF position in his projections (I think he has in the past when he did ZR/RZR-based projections), or what the past TotalZone data says. For 2008, TotalZone has Damon&#8217;s range at +14 (-2 arm), for 2009 it&#8217;s +6 (average arm). Now, the Fans Scouting Report and UZR for those years obviously disagree, and that why one should look at multiple sources. </p>
<p>Jeff Zimmerman&#8217;s UZR-based projections have Damon as -1 in LF &#8212; they&#8217;re regressed and age-adjusted. One cool thing Jeff (and Rally, I guess) could add would be something like a Marcels relibillity score, it&#8217;s pretty easy, when I was messing with defensive projections, I did it.</p>
<p>Anyway, keep in mind, everyone that this is very different than measuring catcher defense (each has their challenges), and also that (as I understand it) outfield range ratings tend to have larger error bars than for the infield&#8230; I haven&#8217;t done a study, but just in browsing in the past, I&#8217;ve noticed more variance between TotalZone and UZR in the OF than in IF positions. But again, I defer to others.</p>
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		<title>By: Scottwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scottwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off topic, but why is Damon given a +7 defensive rating on CHONE?  That has to be a misprint.  That should read -7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic, but why is Damon given a +7 defensive rating on CHONE?  That has to be a misprint.  That should read -7.</p>
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		<title>By: CircleChange11</title>
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		<dc:creator>CircleChange11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Although I&#039;m personally excited that I might to get to see John Buck play in-person, many Royals fans hate him for being part of the return for Carlos Beltran in 2004 and for his numerous strikeouts and poor defense.&quot;

You&#039;re excited to see a high strikeout, poor defense catcher in person? *grin*

Hey, we all have our favorites. I&#039;m just kidding around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Although I&#8217;m personally excited that I might to get to see John Buck play in-person, many Royals fans hate him for being part of the return for Carlos Beltran in 2004 and for his numerous strikeouts and poor defense.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re excited to see a high strikeout, poor defense catcher in person? *grin*</p>
<p>Hey, we all have our favorites. I&#8217;m just kidding around.</p>
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		<title>By: Gopherballs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gopherballs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This kind of proves Matt&#039;s point, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of proves Matt&#8217;s point, huh?</p>
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