Comments on: Twins Pick Up Cuddyer’s Option

By: John

John — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:37:14 +0000

Cuddyer has been a Twin since 02.

If the Twins have ANY HOPE of Resigning Mauer NOW, They had to show him by Acquiring Hardy and Giving Cuddy 2011 that they want to WIN in 2010 and 2011.

That is a HUGE part of the reason they picked up the option.

He is one of the nicest guys and best clubhouse guys on the time every year. Numerous stories about him as the team magician, etc.

Also, I’m a Twins STH, they MUST INCREASE their payroll to 80-90 million Starting in 2009 with the New Park.

Heck, they have Sold 8,000 Full and Half and 1/4 Ticket Plans since Summer. Most are 1/4’s but the building will be full for the next two years and the suites and club seats are gone.

Way to go Twins! Spend more money finally!

By: joser

joser — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:50:45 +0000

Prediction: the comments section will still be infested by sad little trolls like you also.

By: RonG.

RonG. — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:10:14 +0000

Prediction: By 2011, when this contract is complete, the term “UZR” will be gone from this site, only to be replaced by another untested, conceived-from-wholecloth defensive metric dujour that leads the site’s authors to come to laughable conclusions daily.

Meanwhile, the Twins will have two more division championships to their credit, which will piss off these same authors to no end, and lead said authors to prove that those two championships really didn’t happen, because the pythag just doesn’t add up, and Bill Smith didn’t graduate from an Ivy League school.

By: Kincaid

Kincaid — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:23:35 +0000

Career wOBA is probably not a good projection for Cuddyer right now, but even that projection (.348/.475 would be about a .350-.355 wOBA) with -10 defense in right is more like 1.5-1.6 WAR. Add in that you need to project 2011 and not 2010, and both his offensive and defensive projections should drop a bit. So 2 WAR seems very optimistic to me.

By: Bill@TDS

Bill@TDS — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:46:42 +0000

No. The Penny and Smoltz signings were completely defensible before the fact. Arguing that signing Kubel for $3.5m a year was a bad idea because the Pirates signed Eric Hinske for less was ludicrous on its face before the fact, a very rare (but complete and utter) stinker by Mr. Cameron. That it happened to end up looking even more ridiculous than anyone could have anticipated AFTER the fact just makes it a little more fun.

By: Brent

Brent — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:50:10 +0000

Why because only teams that use advanced statistics should win?

By: Kirk

Kirk — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:42:56 +0000

this deal likely won’t be a great value to the Twins but it’s not bad since they have the payroll room. It’s speculated that the twins payroll will go as high as 85-90M this season which is quite a bit more than your 70M in 2011 number. http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091102&content_id=7604978&vkey=news_min&fext=.jsp&c_id=min&partnerId=rss_min

The other issue that is wrong with this article is that the Twins are building to win now. And that means adding quality players not subtracting them. It’s convenient to say that a player could be acquired cheaper in the future but this isn’t always the case and frequently this leads to teams having to overpay to fill a specific need. And the Twins have a definite specific need of a good RHB since Cuddyer was the only one worth a **** before Hardy was acquired. And there really isn’t much to replace Cuddyer in the OF until a bunch A ball OF prospects are ready conveniently at the end of this 2 yr commitment.

Again it’s not a bargain (all deals can’t be bargains) but it’s a solid deal if a team has the payroll room and is in a win now mode.

btw – the Kubel signing worked out fairly well despite a bad review here.

By: Kevin S.

Kevin S. — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:50:53 +0000

So, any time somebody who liked the Penny and Smoltz signings for Boston should be reminded if they praise Boston again? You’re making yourselves look petty and ridiculous as a collective fanbase.

By: joser

joser — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:34:35 +0000

So my understanding is that Target field will be a little bigger in RF and significantly smaller in LF compared to the Metrodome. That may hurt Cuddyer's fielding a little bit (especially with his "baggie banking" skill gone the way of the buggy-whip makers'), but for a guy who clearly gets much of his offense and almost all of his power to left field, that's a very good fit. Of course we won't know how the field actually plays for outfield flies until we see a lot of games played there -- just look at New Yankee Stadium -- but it's quite possible that with Target Field aiding him in 81 games he'll continue to put up strong offensive numbers even if he regresses somewhat in real terms.

By: greenmachine

greenmachine — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:28:14 +0000

IN a word: yes.