Comments on: UnBusted Prospects http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/unbusted-prospects/ Daily baseball statistical analysis and commentary Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:38:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Brian http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/unbusted-prospects/#comment-61400 Brian Mon, 02 Feb 2009 01:16:41 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=2707#comment-61400 I hope nobody watches Brandon Wood in the majors and says he's horrible based on how he did in the minors. Anyone who pays close attention to how he does at each level would see he's been at the majors like he was at each level. He starts off slow and strikes out a lot for a couple weeks of playing every day. Then he starts hitting and watch out. His biggest problem is Mike Scioscia doesn't see this and doesn't just let him play. I hope nobody watches Brandon Wood in the majors and says he’s horrible based on how he did in the minors. Anyone who pays close attention to how he does at each level would see he’s been at the majors like he was at each level. He starts off slow and strikes out a lot for a couple weeks of playing every day. Then he starts hitting and watch out. His biggest problem is Mike Scioscia doesn’t see this and doesn’t just let him play.

]]> By: shoewizard http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/unbusted-prospects/#comment-61322 shoewizard Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:22:40 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=2707#comment-61322 7 major projections systems projected Quentin to hit .257/.319/.424 .743 OPS with 12 HR in 380 AB Among those: ZIPS: .257/.319.424 .743 OPS 12 HR in 380 AB BP: .259/.344/.430 .774 OPS 13 HR in 338 PA's I think most people envisioned him beating those projections if fully healthy and recovered from shoulder surgery, I know I did, and I was critical of trade, ....but c'mon.....all those who thought he would hit nearly 40 homers ever, let alone right away please raise your hand. 7 major projections systems projected Quentin to hit

.257/.319/.424 .743 OPS with 12 HR in 380 AB

Among those:

ZIPS: .257/.319.424 .743 OPS 12 HR in 380 AB

BP: .259/.344/.430 .774 OPS 13 HR in 338 PA’s

I think most people envisioned him beating those projections if fully healthy and recovered from shoulder surgery, I know I did, and I was critical of trade, ….but c’mon…..all those who thought he would hit nearly 40 homers ever, let alone right away please raise your hand.

]]> By: Roel Torres http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/unbusted-prospects/#comment-61301 Roel Torres Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:15:56 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=2707#comment-61301 I can't believe you're blaming the failure of Isiah Thomas because people weren't patient enough with him. That is completely absurd. A) He's the guy who messed up the Knicks salary cap by adding bad contracts in the first place. B) He certainly could have said let's clear up the cap and wait a few years -- it's what Donnie Walsh is doing as we speak, and everyone is okay with the idea -- but he chose not to. I could go on and on with the actual reasons why Thomas was fired. But it wasn't because people were unreasonably impatient with him. Seriously? I mean, wow. Just... wow. I can’t believe you’re blaming the failure of Isiah Thomas because people weren’t patient enough with him. That is completely absurd. A) He’s the guy who messed up the Knicks salary cap by adding bad contracts in the first place. B) He certainly could have said let’s clear up the cap and wait a few years — it’s what Donnie Walsh is doing as we speak, and everyone is okay with the idea — but he chose not to.

I could go on and on with the actual reasons why Thomas was fired. But it wasn’t because people were unreasonably impatient with him.

Seriously? I mean, wow. Just… wow.

]]> By: Steve Shane http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/unbusted-prospects/#comment-61271 Steve Shane Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:11:56 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=2707#comment-61271 I think one thing ppl are forgetting is most MLB GMs dont have the luxury of being able to wait a year or two for a player to develope. Their job is on the line 'every' year, so they try to put the best product out on the field every day. A perfect example, albiet in the NBA, is isiah thomas, he needed to W badly the last 2 years, he couldnt say, the salary cap is too f*cked up, lets wait a few years, so he had to make moves to improve the knicks in those seasons, not to put the knicks in the best situation for improvement in a few years. I think one thing ppl are forgetting is most MLB GMs dont have the luxury of being able to wait a year or two for a player to develope. Their job is on the line ‘every’ year, so they try to put the best product out on the field every day.

A perfect example, albiet in the NBA, is isiah thomas, he needed to W badly the last 2 years, he couldnt say, the salary cap is too f*cked up, lets wait a few years, so he had to make moves to improve the knicks in those seasons, not to put the knicks in the best situation for improvement in a few years.

]]> By: Steve Shane http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/unbusted-prospects/#comment-61270 Steve Shane Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:08:18 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=2707#comment-61270 The braves hitting instructor wanted to change Andy LaRoche's stance years ago in the minors, LaRoches talked him into keeping it for a few days, he hit well those games, and has "been allowed" to keep it ever since. The braves hitting instructor wanted to change Andy LaRoche’s stance years ago in the minors, LaRoches talked him into keeping it for a few days, he hit well those games, and has “been allowed” to keep it ever since.

]]> By: Greg J. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/unbusted-prospects/#comment-61259 Greg J. Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:00:33 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=2707#comment-61259 Um, hi. I counted 41 American born players among the top 50 hitters in Value Wins this year and another 39 among the top 50 pitchers. Um, hi. I counted 41 American born players among the top 50 hitters in Value Wins this year and another 39 among the top 50 pitchers.

]]> By: Tom http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/unbusted-prospects/#comment-61254 Tom Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:08:07 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=2707#comment-61254 BJ Upton is another example. BJ Upton is another example.

]]> By: John Brown http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/unbusted-prospects/#comment-61248 John Brown Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:27:54 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=2707#comment-61248 Blogers: I agree teams tend to give up on players that don"t explode as soon as they get to the majors. I do hope they give towles another real chance. sometimes a player hits a rough spot and he panics if at that point he had someone to reassure him he might come out of it . I often wonder how many good players are thrown away for the lack of a little patients. It seems to me ,if the player is not a high draft choice where the team has a lot of money at stake they don't have any patients. Then there are players they give many chances to and they keep saying he will get better and years later he does nothing. I guess that is the difference between a good organization and a bad one. John B. Blogers: I agree teams tend to give up on players that don”t explode as soon as they get to the majors. I do hope they give towles another real chance. sometimes a player hits a rough spot and he panics if at that point he had someone to reassure him he might come out of it . I often wonder how many good players are thrown away for the lack of a little patients. It seems to me ,if the player is not a high draft choice where the team has a lot of money at stake they don’t have any patients. Then there are players they give many chances to and they keep saying he will get better and years later he does nothing. I guess that is the difference between a good organization and a bad one. John B.

]]> By: Aaron/YYZ http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/unbusted-prospects/#comment-61227 Aaron/YYZ Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:51:06 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=2707#comment-61227 One other point that hasn't really been touched on, but goord organizations do a much better job of being patient with their young players compared to bad organizations (I mean by management, not necessarily bad by record). Case in point: Boston's handling of Pedroia. One other point that hasn’t really been touched on, but goord organizations do a much better job of being patient with their young players compared to bad organizations (I mean by management, not necessarily bad by record). Case in point: Boston’s handling of Pedroia.

]]> By: Felix Pie http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/unbusted-prospects/#comment-61210 Felix Pie Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:47:44 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/?p=2707#comment-61210 What about me? I am the ultimate guy who was killing the ball in AAA and didn't do squat in the majors. Do I have a shot? What about me? I am the ultimate guy who was killing the ball in AAA and didn’t do squat in the majors. Do I have a shot?

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