Comments on: Verlander Chasing Greinke

By: lincypoo

lincypoo — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:24:26 +0000

/buys low early in season on nolasco, big papi, tulowitzski, atkins

ah crap

By: Nick

Nick — Wed, 27 May 2009 13:11:59 +0000

Yeah, and he did against the Tigers, too. UGH.

By: Everett

Everett — Wed, 27 May 2009 02:52:33 +0000

I tried for 2 weeks to get Verlander before he went on this tear. Unfortunately the other owner apparently also reads analytical sites and didn’t trade him to me.

By: Kevin S.

Kevin S. — Wed, 27 May 2009 02:46:03 +0000

I apologize for turning this into a fantasy gloating thread. Uhh, back on topic…

Zack saw this and said “Anything you can do, I can do better.” Complete gamer, 8:0 K:BB, six hits and one run. BEAST.

By: Kevin S.

Kevin S. — Tue, 26 May 2009 23:21:16 +0000

Indeed. Oh, the trades I offered for Ricky Nolasco. Thankfully he was held by the one owner as high on him as me.

By: Mark R

Mark R — Tue, 26 May 2009 23:06:46 +0000

The sad (for people like us) truth is that we’re not ALL that much better at predicting performance than the average fan. We all have biases. Just ask J.P. Ricciardi or Dan O’Dowd how hard it is fill out a roster even when you’re saber-savvy and others aren’t.

By: David Foy

David Foy — Tue, 26 May 2009 22:43:59 +0000

I own Greinke and i tried to trade for Verlander, I wouldn’t try to trade either unless i was offered something that was obviously a reach, like A-Rod or Albert for either of these. While u’re right Wally that they are putting up better #s than we can hope to expect for the rest of the season I think we should all still expect them to be 2 of the best pitchers in the majors and that in itself holds a large amount of fantasy value.

By: Wally

Wally — Tue, 26 May 2009 22:01:03 +0000

Is anyone shocked the average fangraphs reader can’t kick holy hell out of joe-average-fantasy-baseball-guy? I mean come on.

I didn’t start fantasy baseball this year, but if I were you guys I’d be looking for a sucker to pay too much for them now. They are surely good pitchers, but are obviously (too us) no where near this good.

By: Dan

Dan — Tue, 26 May 2009 20:40:37 +0000

I traded Felipe Lopez for Verlander and JJ Hardy.

By: Eric Cioe

Eric Cioe — Tue, 26 May 2009 20:38:32 +0000

Greinke’s going to give up a HR at some point, and then they’re going to look a lot more comparable.

It’s really cool to have such an amazing collection of pitchers (or at least single outstanding seasons) in the AL Central in the last few years: Johan, CC, Lee, Carmona(‘s 2007), Verlander, Buehrle, Greinke, Meche, others. Even Edwin Jackson is dominating right now. I think the NL West has the most amazing collection of arms in any division with Billingsley, Peavy, Cain, Lincecum, Webb, Haren, Jimenez, and Kershaw, but the AL Central has had at least one amazing pitcher per year for the last five years, and I think probably has the most great pitchers of any AL division.

It certainly is going to be a fun summer watching these guys match up against one another. I wished that Verlander and Greinke would have hooked up for this week’s series in KC, but Jackson/Greinke is a nice consolation gift.