Comments on: Washburn To Detroit

By: jcummings

jcummings — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:33:05 +0000

It’s funny reading all these comments after knowing what actually happened over the course of the rest of the year. Poor Detroit.

By: joser

joser — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:50:37 +0000

So do quite a few of the commenters.

By: Bill

Bill — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:38:10 +0000

Edwin Jackson is one of the five best pitchers in the AL this year, while the guy he was traded for a 26 year old minor leaguer, and the trade might be a wash? Really?

By: BobbyMac

BobbyMac — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:56:27 +0000

Granderson was hurt in 2008. His +/- By season are:
+12/+12/+20/-11/+9 (partial – 2009)

No dropoff there.

UZR doesn’t account for shifts (adequately).

By: BJ

BJ — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:53:56 +0000

“Also, looking at career numbers for players in their mid to late 30s is a mistake. For example:

Ken Griffey Jr has a career wOBA of .387. He’s a good major-league hitter.”

Well, that’s not entirely accurate since you are talking about a position player compared to a pitcher. Often, pitchers age much better than hitters and using an extreme example like an over-40 Griffey is a little unfair (even if the peanut gallery loves it!).

Funny you didn’t mention Raul Ibanez as your “for example…”

By: Jeff

Jeff — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 19:37:06 +0000

French projects as nothing higher than a 5th starter TOPS! Having seen him in Toledo for 2 years, he is nothing more than a middle releiver / spot starter….

The Tigers got someone who can help them make the playoffs… TIGERS WIN hands down…

By: Jeff

Jeff — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 19:27:56 +0000

It seams to me all this site is concenrned with is how cheap a player is playing for… Maybe Detroit doesnt care about spending 3.5 mil more over the rest of the year if they actually win…

By: Lee Panas

Lee Panas — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 23:19:58 +0000

The Tigers are strong defensively in center (Granderson) and right (Clete Thomas). They are weak in left (Raburn, Thames). I know Washburn is a fly ball pitcher but every pitcher induces some ground balls. The Tigers infield defense should help any pitcher. Comerica is not a big home run park so that won’t kill him either. Overall, Washburn won’t have the same advantages in Detroit as Seattle but the Tigers still provide a good environment for a pitcher.

By: lester bangs

lester bangs — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 10:46:04 +0000

Washburn has outperformed his FIP in eight of the last nine years. He’s also someone who regularly beats the league average in HR/FB. I see the clear signs that he’s pitching far over his head this year (BABIP the most obvious), and his OF defense in Detroit is a major step down from what he enjoyed in Seattle, but as a middle-rotation guy, he’s a good add for the Tigers. The price was reasonable. So long as the Tigers don’t offer Washburn the arbitration cash cow, this is a decent move for them.

By: Scottwood

Scottwood — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 05:47:37 +0000

Most Tigers fans are not expecting Washburn to be a top of the rotation guy. He is what he is: a dependable arm at the back of a rotation who will eat innings and give you a reasonable chance to win. There is a lot of value in that for a team that has a struggling Porcello and inconsistent Galaragga behind Jackson and Verlander. An ERA between 4 and 4.5 is and should be expected. And, that is fine. This was a good deal for Seattle and a good deal for Detroit.