NL Wild Card Game Live Blog

7:59
Dave Cameron: It’s playoff time in PIttsburgh. The last time anyone said that… okay, you’ve probably had enough of those today.
7:59
Dave Cameron: But welcome back to the postseason, Pirates fans.
7:59
Dave Cameron: This should be fun.
8:02
Dave Cameron: Whoops, name added now.
8:02
Comment From TimA
good on you Pittsburgh!
8:02
Comment From bucs_lose_again
I’ve thrown up twice already. These next three hours are going to be hell.

8:02
Comment From Chase
Who is rooting for who?
8:03
Comment From Dustin
God its weird feeling like the bad guy as a reds fan.
8:03
Dave Cameron: The world is against the big market tyrant, the Cincinnati Reds.
8:04
Comment From Ryan
If you’re outside Ohio/Kentucky and are rooting for the Reds, you’re a bad person.
8:04
Comment From Luke
How many non-Reds fans are really going to be rooting the Reds? Pirates are too good of a story not to cheer for
8:04
Comment From Guest
I kinda like both teams, but c’mon – I have a soul. Go Bucs!
8:04
Comment From Jaack
So this is basically a poll for if you are a Reds fan and/or don’t have a soul.
8:04
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
As a Canadian, I feel justified in rooting for Votto. But screw it go Bucs.
8:05
Comment From Catoblepas
Maybe Clint Hurdle kicked over your sand castle once as a little kid! Maybe a ground ball bounced off Andrew McCutchen’s face and hit your dog!
8:05
Comment From bucs_lose_again
Sgt. Pepp…we got Martin and Morneau representing Canada. No worries
8:06
Comment From Lonely Hearts Club Band
I want the pirates to win, but I want Votto to win it all so bad… so torn
8:07
Dave Cameron: I’m with all of you. Go Pirates, but Joey Votto getting a bunch of clutch hits would be cool too.
8:08
Dave Cameron: Wife was showing me a coupon for doggie day care that we got in the mail, before the dog stole in and ran away with said coupon.
8:08
Dave Cameron: That swing looked overmatched.
8:08
Dave Cameron: So did that one.
8:09
Comment From Brian
I’m seeing a pattern.
8:09
Comment From Emmett
If Liriano can locate the slider there all night, the Reds don’t stand a chance.
8:10
Dave Cameron: Great change-up.
8:10
Comment From chuckb
And that one as well.
8:11
Comment From AJT
Inning was quick.
8:11
Dave Cameron: Liriano vs lefties is a huge advantage for PIT.
8:11
Comment From Sam
First pitch swinging by Votto? Who is this man?
8:12
Comment From Malone
.292 wOBA vs. lefties for Choo in ’13. Is he a platoon bat?
8:12
Dave Cameron: Probably pretty soon.
8:12
Comment From Tyler
thoughts on the reds doing nothing to counter liriano’s greatness vs lefties?
8:12
Dave Cameron: What were they supposed to do?
8:13
Comment From Guest
Dave did you get any feedback from Pittsburgh management on your Wild Card article?
8:13
Dave Cameron: They have Dan Fox. They don’t need me to tell them all that.
8:13
Comment From J Bravo
Did we hear whether Billy Hamilton is active tonight?
8:13
Dave Cameron: He is. It would have been nuts to not have him.
8:14
Comment From Tyler
not bat choo 1st to start?
8:14
Dave Cameron: Their RH hitters suck, though.
8:14
Dave Cameron: First pitch 83 mph change?
8:14
Dave Cameron: Odd.
8:14
Comment From Aaron
Haven’t paid much attention to the Reds the last week or two, why is Cueto pitching this game?
8:14
Dave Cameron: Latos has elbow issues.
8:15
Dave Cameron: Pretty great play by Cueto there.
8:15
Comment From Lyle
Any chance Pirates use Cole in a bullpen role if things go bad?
8:15
Dave Cameron: He’s the emergency starter to be held back for extra innings, so no.
8:16
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Who is the Reds emergency starter?
8:16
Dave Cameron: Mike Leake.
8:17
Dave Cameron: Battle of the dreadlocks.
8:17
Comment From James S
Based on the chants of MVP, I’m guessing Mike Trout is coming to the plate.
8:18
Dave Cameron: McCutchen missed a cookie.
8:18
Comment From chuckb
That one was well located.
8:19
Comment From Chris
Capped off with a nice take
8:20
Comment From Brian
Pretty clean first inning of baseball.
8:20
Dave Cameron: Yeah, I don’t expect a ton of offense tonight.
8:21
Comment From chuckb
Who’s pen do you like better? I’d go with the Pirates, despite the Reds having Chapman.
8:21
Dave Cameron: Agree.
8:21
Comment From chuckb
I also like Hurdle’s ability to manage it better than Dusty’s.
8:22
Comment From Wesley
Are people too hard on Dusty Baker? A manager can only do so much to impact his team.
8:23
Dave Cameron: Agree with this too, to an extent. Dusty’s a problem, but he’s not going to single handedly lose this game.
8:23
Comment From Steve 1
Kinda rooting for the Reds. Votto, Choo and Chapman are delights. Plus, Steelers fans.
8:23
Comment From James S
Give Dusty some credit for adapting, he clearly figured out to hack Dave’s account on here.
8:24
Comment From Casey
Thats the calmest suit Ive ever seen Craig Sager wear. I wonder if he has a funeral to go to after the game?
8:24
Comment From Marty
Hey Dave, thanks for hanging out. If Joe West calls the outside pitch all night, what team benefits more?
8:24
Dave Cameron: I’d guess the Pirates, who are more walk reliant.
8:24
Dave Cameron: These lefties have no chance.
8:25
Dave Cameron: That slider is so wicked.
8:25
Dave Cameron: Dominating.
8:26
Comment From Guest
It’s like a game of “count the swinging strikes,” and I’ve already lost count.
8:26
Comment From David
Everytime Liriano throws that slider, a Twins fan dies inside
8:26
Comment From Brian
What happened to Liriano before the Pirates? He used to be dominate in his earlier days, how did he fall off? Cause right now he looks dominant.
8:27
Dave Cameron: Injuries. His velo has bounced all over the place.
8:27
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Does he already have more swinging strikes than Price did last night?
8:27
Dave Cameron: Twice as many.
8:27
Comment From Guest
Is Liriano a FA?
8:27
Dave Cameron: No, they got him on a two year deal. They’re smart.
8:28
Dave Cameron: Clint Barmes showing the range.
8:29
Comment From Wesley
2 Years for a pitcher with Liriano’s history seems risky– I assume that second year was heavily incentive-laden?
8:30
Dave Cameron: It’s something like $5M guaranteed with incentives that could push it to $8M. Huge bargain.
8:30
Comment From zack
Will Josh Johnson get a Liriano type deal this offseason?
8:30
Dave Cameron: He’ll probably just take one year and try to get a big paycheck next winter.
8:31
Comment From Lyle
With the exception of Cano who gets the biggest FA deal this winter?
8:31
Dave Cameron: Ellsbury.
8:31
Comment From Mike
How despised will this Fall Out Boy song be by the end of the playoffs?
8:31
Dave Cameron: THIIIIIIIIIS TRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN.
8:32
Dave Cameron: Marlon Byrd.
8:32
Dave Cameron: That was crushed.
8:33
Dave Cameron: Brutal pitch location.
8:33
Comment From WWMRD
Ok…PNC park looks ridiculously fun to be at tonight, and I’m not even a Pirates fan
8:33
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Describing what just happened to someone from a year ago would be hilarious
8:34
Comment From Ryan
Any word on how many innings we can expect from Cueto? The starter-to-Chapman innings can get kind of rough for the Reds this year.
8:35
Dave Cameron: My guess is 4-5.
8:35
Comment From NatsonVacation
cheering cueto… fantastic
8:36
Dave Cameron: This crowd is awesome.
8:36
Dave Cameron: This is great.
8:36
Comment From joseph
Oh boy
8:36
Comment From Josh
Fans are awesome right now!
8:36
Comment From chuckb
Terrible location again. Trouble.
8:36
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Canada!
8:36
Comment From Catoblepas
how can you not want this crowd to get a win???
8:36
Comment From Marty
Win or lose, one thing is for sure, PIttsburgh is gonna be one hungover city tomorrow.
8:36
Comment From Guest
French Canada!
8:37
Comment From Wood
Wow. I want to be there
8:37
Comment From Luke
I’m not a pitching “expert”, but you probably shouldn’t throw that pitch right down the middle anymore.
8:37
Comment From Cale
If Clint Barmes hits a homerun Cueto cries right?
8:37
Comment From Ben
CUEEEETOOO…CUEEEETOOOO..CUEEEETOOOO
8:37
Comment From David
If Barmes goes yard I’m buying a lotto ticket
8:38
Comment From rob
That’s european soccer atmosphere right there @ PNC Park.
8:38
Dave Cameron: Defensive wiz Shin-Soo Choo to the rescue.
8:39
Comment From James S
Liriano brings his usual “I care” face to batting.
8:40
Dave Cameron: Francisco Liriano with a base hit!
8:40
Dave Cameron: More unlikely than the homers.
8:40
Comment From Brian
Get that bullpen ready.
8:40
Comment From jimmy
Hope Chapman can go 7 innings
8:41
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
“Fransisco Liriano will start the wild card game for the Pirates and get a hit off Johnny Cueto”-Insane person, circa 2012
8:41
Comment From Cale
Can Billy Hamilton pitch?
8:41
Comment From Josh
The Baseball Gods are loving Pittsburgh right now.
8:42
Dave Cameron: Wow.
8:42
Comment From Tony
Amazing catch.
8:42
Comment From Josh
WOW!
8:42
Comment From Emmett
That was insane.
8:43
Comment From David
“Psh, no blood.” – Jeter
8:43
Comment From Brad Wesley
A Bud Light Lime commercial. In October.
8:44
Comment From Matt
Ring in summmer, baby!
8:46
Dave Cameron: Barmes can really play short.
8:48
Paul Swydan: Hi guys! Reminder: this is the last time the crowd psyched out a player so much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV8OReMQDs8

Also, weren’t those Mets uniforms glorious?

8:48
Comment From Jason
Groundballs galore.
8:48
Dave Cameron: Hard to imagine a pitcher looking better than Liriano right now.
8:49
Paul Swydan: The Reds are going to need a 40-pitch AB from Votto the next time through.
8:49
Comment From machetko
Was that Cueto chant planned or spontaneous? Some kind of hashtag? Have opposing fans been doing it to him all year?
8:49
Dave Cameron: I’ve never seen it before.
8:50
Comment From Marty
5 balls through 3 innings!!
8:50
Dave Cameron: That’s remarkable.
8:50
Comment From Mike
Paul, that clip just makes me sad that Vin Scully doesn’t call playoff baseball anymore.
8:50
Comment From chuckb
That’s 5 more than Sullivan had all night last night!
8:50
Paul Swydan: Scully is doing the radio for the Dodgers NLDS series. That’s somehting, right?
8:50
Comment From Mikey
Why is Cueto not being pinch-hit for right there not a bigger thing? It’s not like he’s been overly *good* thus far. I mean, I know, two outs and no one on…
8:51
Dave Cameron: 2 outs, no on, lefty due up after – not really a huge advantage to pinch-hitting there.
8:51
Comment From NatsonVacation
A Pittsburger knows how to get under someone’s skin. It’s hereditary.
8:51
Comment From Matt
Us Pirates fans are used to playoff hockey, they are treating Cueto like a Goalie.
8:52
Paul Swydan: He certainly has the behind of a goalie.
8:52
Comment From JayT
Dave, would you still consider pulling Liriano after Bruce’s next at bat?
8:52
Dave Cameron: Consider, yes, but realize that it would be basically impossible to sell to the guys in the dugout right now.
8:53
Paul Swydan: Yeah, esp with his pitch count at 28. 28!
8:53
Paul Swydan: I bet Liriano had several innings last year with more than 28 pitches. Nevermind three combined.
8:53
Dave Cameron: Yeah, though the low pitch count might actually be an argument for taking him out, since he might be fresh enough to start Game 2 of NLDS if you keep him to ~45ish.
8:53
Paul Swydan: Very true.
8:53
Comment From Casey
I love seeing Dejected Joe Morgan.
8:54
Comment From Catoblepas
How confident should Pittsburgh be in their bullpen though? You have to get to the NLDS first, and it’s not like you can put Liriano back in if things go south.
8:55
Dave Cameron: Relievers are mostly more effective than starters the second and third time through the order.
8:56
Paul Swydan: And while momentum doesn’t mean a great deal, the Pirates bullpen ranked 6th in FIP- in Sept. (75)
8:56
Dave Cameron: If Frazier can make a better throw, that’s a double play. Nice catch, though.
8:56
Paul Swydan: Nice hustle by McCutchen to get back.
8:57
Comment From Guest
Liriano is much better at PNC it would be better to use him in game 3
8:57
Dave Cameron: This is not a good way to use splits.
8:57
Comment From Other Guest
can you explain why? quickly, I know this isn’t really the place
8:58
Paul Swydan: Also, it’s not really all that true. 3.10 xFIP at home, 3.14 on the road. Using him in Game 2 – if possible – gives him the opportunity to start in Game 5 as well.
8:58
Comment From Brian
That ball was smoked.
8:58
Comment From chuckb
Surely Dusty’s got the pen working. He can’t let this go too far.
8:59
Dave Cameron: Yeah, you can’t let these games get out of hand.
8:59
Dave Cameron: There’s no such thing as a low leverage situation in an elimination game.
8:59
Paul Swydan: Yeah, for reference, see Games 6 and 7, 2012 NLCS.
8:59
Dave Cameron: Not sure I’d be letting Alvarez face an RHP here.
9:00
Dave Cameron: Not that Baker has a lefty up.
9:00
Comment From chuckb
They have 4 in the pen, right?
9:00
Dave Cameron: Yes.
9:00
Comment From Jack
Alvarez could end this game basically
9:01
Comment From chuckb
The Reds are probably lucky to just be down 3.
9:01
Paul Swydan: Gee, nice effort from Choo there. You gotta at least throw to the cutoff man, see if the runner on first gets caught napping.
9:01
Comment From Matt
McCutchen’s hustle is so awesome…
9:02
Comment From Guest
I think the problem is obvious… Dusty Baker doesn’t have enough wrist bands on
9:02
Comment From MJ
terrible camerawork.
9:02
Comment From Mike Y.
Holy camera fail, TBS?
9:03
Comment From Robert
He also doesn’t have enough toothpicks.
9:04
Comment From bucs_lose_again
Clint Barmes: “Why does it always come back to the deer meat?”
9:04
Paul Swydan: Clint Barmes: “Thank God nobody knows how I ACTUALLY got hurt.”
9:04
Dave Cameron: Some anti-hustle by Phillips there.
9:05
Comment From justin
That’s his “swag”
9:05
Comment From bucs_lose_again
Paul, are you saying it’s one of those Glenallen Hill stories? “I swear, I dreamt about spiders and woke up thrown through a glass table?”
9:05
Paul Swydan: No, it’s one of those Jeff Kent stories.
9:06
Comment From Shrewd Cat
TBS can’t spell- it’s Hurdle’s third year as ‘MANGER’
9:06
Dave Cameron: Jesus was laid in Clint Hurdle’s lap.
9:06
Paul Swydan: And he turned full tomato face just holding him.
9:07
Dave Cameron: Maybe laid was the wrong choice of words there.
9:08
Dave Cameron: Choo doing what Choo does.
9:09
Dave Cameron: Liriano with no HBPs in regular season? Seems odd for a guy with command problems at times.
9:09
Dave Cameron: Second time through the order…
9:10
Comment From Bob
Oh no! The most unclutch hitter in MLB now at bat.
9:10
Comment From Gila Monster
Joey Votto walk.. I’d love it
9:10
Comment From TicToc
2 first pitch swings for votto…
9:10
Paul Swydan: From 2009-2012, Liriano was T-20th in HBP with 30. At least 6 in each season.
9:10
Dave Cameron: Rough AB for Votto.
9:11
Paul Swydan: So yeah, a little odd that he didn’t hit anyone this year.
9:11
Comment From Brian
One of the few times that Votto will look completely overmatched.
9:11
Comment From Guest
So, Votto swings at 3 balls. Dusty, stop trying to change him.
9:11
Paul Swydan: None of those pitches even close to being a strike.
9:11
Comment From Tony
nice block!
9:12
Comment From Mike Y.
Dave and Paul: OK with Cueto starting, or should it have been Bailey?
9:12
Dave Cameron: Okay with it.
9:13
Paul Swydan: I was OK with it as well. He was their Game 1 starter last year.
9:13
Comment From Bo
::gasp:: a borderline infield fly in the NL Wild Card game!!
9:14
Paul Swydan: If Phillips had got a hit there, the Phillips is better crowd would have had a field day.
9:14
Dave Cameron: Base hit by a lefty!
9:14
Dave Cameron: That’s kind of amazing.
9:14
Dave Cameron: Looked like a FB though.
9:14
Dave Cameron: Not sure why not a slider.
9:15
Paul Swydan: Too easy.
9:16
Dave Cameron: Remember when Liriano looked unhittable like 5 minutes ago?
9:16
Dave Cameron: We were 10 feet away from the Reds winning.
9:16
Comment From MJ
Frazier was ten feet away from contact there
9:16
Paul Swydan: Wow, really poor job by Frazier there.
9:17
Comment From Evan
Frazier is trying to be a hero…
9:17
Comment From Nate
Winning because they’re ahead in the 4th inning?
9:17
Dave Cameron: Leading, winning, you know.
9:17
Comment From Jimmy
Playoffs wildest swings?
9:18
Paul Swydan: Paging Jeff Sullivan!
9:18
Comment From Mike Y.
Martin is sneaky great defensively…simple footwork on that throw
9:18
Comment From bucs_lose_again
Speaking of Sullivan, whose going to cover the first six minutes of the game tomorrow while we’re waiting for Jeff to arrive?
9:19
Comment From Guest
He uses that time to form opinions
9:19
Comment From Steve 1
Yeah how has Jeff never been fired in his life for always being late.
9:20
Comment From chuckb
Should be a pretty short leash on the starters from here on out, huh?
9:20
Dave Cameron: Absolutely.
9:21
Dave Cameron: Johnny Cueto is the best, if you didn’t know.
9:21
Comment From cj
would you have pinch hit for liriano there? start of an inning
9:21
Dave Cameron: Yes, I would have.
9:21
Paul Swydan: Unreal.
9:21
Comment From Steve 1
UMPIRES!!!!
9:22
Comment From David
is it like basketball? refs are part of the field?
9:22
Paul Swydan: I’m not certain Marte could have had a triple there, but …
9:22
Comment From Monty
#humanelement
9:22
Comment From Johnny
I like how he jumped right into the ball
9:22
Comment From chuckb
Dusty makes the right call here, it should be noted.
9:22
Dave Cameron: Agree.
9:23
Comment From Guest
Is Cueto still the best?
9:23
Paul Swydan: He’s so good that Dusty wanted him to sit on the bench right next to him.
9:23
Comment From chuckb
If the lefty gets Walker, you’ve gotta IBB McCutchen and keep the lefty in to pitch to Morneau, right? Not try to go L-R-L already?
9:24
Dave Cameron: Don’t like walking the tying run on base.
9:24
Comment From chuckb
Wouldn’t be the tying run. It would be run #5.
9:24
Dave Cameron: Yeah, I’m sorry, I’m distracted by the wife trying to get some attention.
9:24
Dave Cameron: Also, I’m an idiot.
9:25
Comment From Charlie
Marshall has two syllables, easy to chant. Bad move by Dusty IMO
9:25
Comment From Josh
Sean Marshall pitching in the 4th. One game baseball is the best
9:25
Comment From Three Fingers Stump
No puppy tonight?
9:25
Dave Cameron: The puppy is to the right of the wife. She’s a barrier.
9:26
Comment From Squid_Vicious
Time to bring in Marc Rzepczynski… the crowd would be pretty hard-pressed to chant that one correctly.
9:26
Comment From MJ
how much does your wife care about baseball, dave?
9:26
Dave Cameron: Not at all.
9:26
Paul Swydan: They’d just chant “Marrrrccccccc” would they not?
9:27
Comment From Marty
you can tell the crowds been drinking, they havnt quite chanted in sync since the pitching change
9:27
Paul Swydan: The other way you can tell — it’s Pittsburgh.
9:27
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Rzepczynski’s middle name is Walter. Problem solved.
9:27
Comment From Evan
Scrabble has two syllables
9:27
Paul Swydan: Defensive stalwart Ryan Hanigan letting an easy pitch go right under his glove.
9:28
Comment From chuckb
Marte probably should’ve advanced there, IMO.
9:28
Paul Swydan: Play was right in front of Hanigan. Gave him edge. I think Marte was right to hold there.
9:28
Paul Swydan: He’s going to score on most singles anyway.
9:29
Comment From Steve 1
Why does tonight feel so much more urgent than yesterday’s game?
9:29
Paul Swydan: Because one of the pitchers isn’t Martin Perez?
9:29
Comment From MJ
because first time Pit has been to playoffs since the Giants signed Bonds
9:29
Comment From Donnie
Today is actually the playoffs.
9:30
Dave Cameron: Neil Walker almost hitting one out against a lefty. Team of destiny narrative.
9:30
Paul Swydan: To the Pittsburgh fans reaching over the wall — don’t do that. You’re probably not as cute as Jeffrey Maier.
9:30
Comment From Monty
woooo giving a leading team more baserunners!
9:30
Comment From Eric
Because this is actually a sellout? Empty seats everywhere in Arlington last night too.
9:31
Comment From David
what percentage of Pittsburgh will call in sick tomorrow? Excluding those on furlough.
9:31
Comment From Seattle Slough
Get we get GIFs of Hanigan dropping his head after every long ball?
9:31
Comment From guapo
You PH Gaby for Morneau?
9:31
Paul Swydan: Yes.
9:31
Dave Cameron: If you do, they’ll just go with RHP. I’d probably save him for when they might stick with LHP.
9:31
Comment From Depressed Ranger Fan
Fans had weeks to buy tickets to this game and schedule around it. Rangers fans had less than 24 hours.
9:31
Paul Swydan: Making Dusty burn as many pitchers early in the game though sounds appetizing.
9:32
Paul Swydan: No excuse. Rockies fans had the same less than 24 hour-window in 2007 and that game sold out. And like 2 million more people live in the Metroplex.
9:32
Comment From Squid_Vicious
How bad is Morneau against lefties?
9:32
Dave Cameron: Awful.
9:33
Paul Swydan: Also, the game was a regular season game. So prices weren’t that high.
9:33
Paul Swydan: Rangers fans have absolutely no excuse.
9:33
Comment From Sean P
The 2007 Rockies were nowhere near as depressing as the 2013 Rangers.
9:33
Paul Swydan: The 2013 Rangers won like their last 11 games. How is that depressing?
9:34
Comment From Depressed Ranger Fan
Their last 7. Against the Astros and Angels. After going 5-15.
9:34
Paul Swydan: More like Spoiled Rangers fan.
9:34
Comment From Marty
If he walks Morneau, what a coup for the Pirates
9:35
Comment From Nate
Yeah, come talk to us Mariners fans about depressing teams
9:35
Dave Cameron: Morneau looks like he’s just trying to not whiff.
9:35
Dave Cameron: And he just fouled off the best pitch he’s going to get all game.
9:36
Paul Swydan: At least he’s making a nice AB of it.
9:36
Comment From guapo
Marshall is done after Morneau?
9:36
Dave Cameron: Should be, yes.
9:37
Comment From TicToc
I dont think he tipped that
9:37
Comment From skore
he didnt touch it
9:37
Comment From Josh
Hmmmm…doesn’t look like Morneau hit that ball
9:37
Paul Swydan: Marshall certainly didn’t think so.
9:37
Paul Swydan: And here comes Dusty, making the correct pitching change again. Up is down.
9:37
Comment From Josh
Bring Chapman in now!
9:37
Dave Cameron: Wouldn’t be the worst idea.
9:38
Comment From joseph
HOO-VER
9:38
Paul Swydan: Pirates win expectancy now at 92%. If another run scores, this thing might be out of reach.
9:39
Comment From Kev
What would be the worst idea?
9:39
Paul Swydan: 92.2%. Excuse me.
9:39
Dave Cameron: Zach Duke.
9:39
Paul Swydan: The worst idea would probably be having Jay Bruce come in to pitch.
9:39
Comment From Seattle Slough
Stan Belinda
9:39
Comment From Michael
Joba Chamberlain would be worse.
9:39
Comment From chuckb
Double-switching Votto out of the game would be pretty bad, too.
9:40
Comment From Jamoie
Pretty high leverage situation. If Red are going to come back they have to shut pirates down here, no?
9:40
Dave Cameron: Pretty much, yeah.
9:40
Paul Swydan: Hoover only 21/36 runners stranded. Woof.
9:41
Comment From Ben Kaspick
E-4
9:41
Comment From Charlie
Brandon Phillips, Gold Glover
9:41
Comment From Guest
Clutch swag!
9:41
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
DatDudeE4
9:41
Comment From Mike
Alert baserunning by Morneau too
9:41
Comment From chuckb
For all those who love fielding %, that’s no error.
9:41
Comment From Robert
its a fielders choice, not an error, since a force was made at second.
9:41
Comment From Robert
its a fielders choice, not an error, since a force was made at second.
9:42
Comment From ralph
DatDudeFC
9:43
Comment From Guest
well, Hoover didn’t suck
9:43
Comment From bucs_lose_again
Cozart said “ehhh, not so sure I trust you, Brandon”
9:43
Comment From Christian
This game is going to last 5 hrs, isn’t it?
9:44
Comment From Vin
Isn’t that a given for a postseason game?
9:44
Comment From joseph
Chant analysis – all Reds pitchers but Duke, Leake and Ondrusek have two syllables.
9:44
Dave Cameron: Ondrusek will be fun.
9:44
Comment From Tim
You’d think with Hoover out there the middle infielders would suck everything up
9:45
Comment From James S
“Zach Duke” is two syllables though. #nowayout
9:45
Comment From brady
zack duke and mike leake are 2 syllable full names though
9:45
Comment From Charlie
Zach Duke is also Zach Duke, so you lose either way even without the chanting
9:45
Comment From Josh
“LO-GAN” No problem
9:45
Comment From joseph
And we can use Lo Gan for Ondrusek
9:46
Comment From aascd
fun fact, Justin Morneau’s cousin is my neighbor and she’s watching hockey instead… that’s how it is in Canada
9:47
Comment From Nicholas
Eh, I’d rather have nationally poor taste in sports than an intransigent Congress.
9:47
Comment From Baseball God
I HAVE CHOSEN!
9:47
Comment From Guest
how does aascd know what his neighbor is watching?
9:47
Paul Swydan: Stay-puft Liriano?
9:47
Paul Swydan: Yeah, Hurdle better have someone up in the ‘pen.
9:48
Dave Cameron: Funny how early dominance can disappear so quickly.
9:48
Paul Swydan: Ryan Hanigan wondering why that wasn’t a strike when his guy was pitching.
9:49
Comment From Lyle
Is bat boy a paid position?
9:50
Paul Swydan: Depends on the team, but if the batboy(s) are often given playoff shares. So for a playoff team, there’s a good chance.
9:50
Comment From frank
MC Hammer was a bat boy
9:50
Paul Swydan: #neverforget
9:50
Comment From TicToc
Isnt it like running with scisors
9:51
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
When is the best time to use Hamilton?
9:51
Paul Swydan: Fun fact: the Rockies bat boy used to ruin all of our dugout celebration photos because he was always the first person to high-five players when they came back to the dugout after scoring. Get out of the shot, batboy!
9:51
Dave Cameron: When advancing one base is a big deal.
9:52
Dave Cameron: Cincinnati is in trouble.
9:53
Paul Swydan: It really just is not Cincinnati’s night.
9:53
Comment From Lyle
Liriano now done?
9:53
Dave Cameron: Depends on who is coming up. He absolutely shouldn’t hit again.
9:54
Paul Swydan: He is up third this inning.
9:54
Dave Cameron: Then he’s done, yes.
9:54
Paul Swydan: If it’s a bunt situation, I could see sticking with him to get him one more crack at Choo and Votto. But at this point, he’s done enough to get it to the bullpen, so yeah.
9:55
Comment From Ben Kaspick
You guys prefer National League baseball?
9:55
Paul Swydan: I do. But I’m in the minority, I think.
9:55
Dave Cameron: Watching pitcher’s hit is not entertaining.
9:56
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Wilson next for the Bucs?
9:56
Comment From Ben Kaspick
But..all the strategy…
9:56
Dave Cameron: Runners on = bunt. No runners on = weak swing. What strategy?
9:56
Paul Swydan: Assuming Liriano comes out, Wilson seems like a good bet for the 6th, yes.
9:56
Comment From Movementarians
I disagree David, watching pitcher’s hit can be hilarious.
9:56
Comment From bucs_lose_again
i’d rather watch adam wainwright bat than delmon young.
9:56
Comment From Mike B.
Alfredo Simon is quite the opposite of tiny.
9:57
Comment From Three Fingers Stump
Definitely not a fan of this TBS camera. Prefer the Pirates usual CF camera
9:57
Paul Swydan: That was my first thought tonight TFS. I don’t understand why they need to use a different camera angle.
9:57
Paul Swydan: Especially when it is inferior.
9:57
Comment From Meano Eno
ANGLES
9:57
Comment From James S
Clint Barmes! He can hit!
9:58
Dave Cameron: Sticking with him, obviously.
9:58
Comment From chuckb
OOOH! The strategy! This is awesome!
9:59
Comment From Mike
Is hurdle just treating this like a game in July?
9:59
Comment From WastedAB
That was so much better than watching a guy who’s paid to hit get an at bat.
9:59
Paul Swydan: He is sticking with his guy.
10:00
Comment From Shannon
Watching Liriano walking (a slow walk, at that) down the first base line is absolutely hilarious. I don’t think I could more effectively convey apathy if I tried.
10:00
Dave Cameron: I think if you were trying, you’d be failing.
10:00
Comment From chuckb
Why is there a giant duck in the river?
10:00
Paul Swydan: Why not?
10:01
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Canadian feed: Greg Zaun is RIPPING the Reds for laughing in the dugout.
10:01
Dave Cameron: Gotta love the Body Language Police.
10:01
Paul Swydan: From MLB PR: 40,487 fans in Pittsburgh tonight, the largest crowd in PNC Park history.
10:01
Comment From Nick
If the announcers take note and make a “ducks on the pond” crack, I’m flipping the table.
10:01
Paul Swydan: That’s awesome.
10:02
Paul Swydan: Flip away.
10:02
Comment From Mike
The duck is for Pittsburgh Cultural Trust’s International Festival of Firsts. No clue what that is but that’s why the duck is there
10:03
Paul Swydan: I feel somewhat confident in saying that if the Reds don’t score this inning that this puppy will be in the bag.
10:04
Dave Cameron: I do not, for the record, keep my puppy in a bag.
10:05
Paul Swydan: “The speed of Choo.” – Ron Darling, comedian
10:05
Comment From TicToc
Do you crate train?
10:05
Dave Cameron: Yes, we crate trained, and she did great with it. Goes in on her own now.
10:05
Comment From carter
Why so confident, Paul?
10:06
Paul Swydan: Because the Bucs will have the whole bullpen with which to play matchups. And it’s a four-run lead.
10:06
Comment From Meano Eno
A REAL MVP CATCHES THAT NOT EVEN WANT
10:06
Comment From Robert
Wow. He really hit the ground hard.
10:07
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Just imagine Choo trying to go for that ball
10:07
Comment From Steve 1
This chat is way less confrontational than yesterday
10:07
Dave Cameron: Sullivan is always starting trouble.
10:08
Comment From chuckb
Kudos to Cal.
10:08
Paul Swydan: Wow. Votto picked a really bad night to have an off night.
10:08
Comment From rfs1962
Wow. Just handled Votto.
10:08
Comment From chuckb
Votto has gotten his ass kicked all night long.
10:09
Comment From Mike
Now Liriano is gone, right?
10:09
Comment From Austin
keep Liriano in for Bruce
10:09
Paul Swydan: I have a feeling we’re going to see Liriano until Liriano gives up a run. He’s still at just 72 pitches.
10:10
Comment From Guest
Liriano is going CG. Hurdle watched David Price last night.
10:10
Comment From bucs_lose_again
has anyone been in the pirates pen yet?
10:11
Comment From Meano Eno
Dave, are you still normal chatting tomorrow? Or are these the chats?
10:11
Comment From rfs1962
He’s going great. Why overthink it? Every out he gets gives you more options to finish.
10:11
Dave Cameron: Okay, disappearing for a few. All you, Paul.
10:11
Paul Swydan: I haven’t seen anyone warming for the Bucs. Anyone else seen anyone up?
10:11
Paul Swydan: Oh boy, are you guys in trouble now.
10:12
Comment From Guest
Paul, Liriano gave up a run already.
10:12
Paul Swydan: Another run. You know what I meant!
10:12
Comment From Mike
No one warming up
10:12
Comment From David
Dad’s gone! Can we have whiskey?
10:12
Paul Swydan: Yes. Yes we can.
10:12
Comment From Xeifrank
Pirates win probability now 98.8% in bottom of sixth.
10:13
Comment From Persona non Grata
If Liriano exits now, could he come back any sooner in the NLDS? Or does it not really matter with off days?
10:13
Paul Swydan: I think we may have passed the point of no return for that. But every pitcher is different.
10:13
Comment From Compton
If you could have Clint Hurdle as part of your family, would you rather him be your A) Grandfather B) Uncle C) Father or D) Husband ?
10:14
Paul Swydan: Uncle. FWIW, I’ve always liked Clint. He is very personable, and very intelligent. Well, very intelligent for someone in uniform.
10:14
Comment From Steve 1
Paul who ya got in Braves/Dodgers?
10:15
Paul Swydan: I had Dodgers in a rout before Skip Schumaker, center fielder became a thing. Now I’m not so sure. But I still lean LA, I guess.
10:15
Comment From Tim
What about Tigers/A’s?
10:15
Paul Swydan: You can read my Tigers/A’s preview on ESPN Insider on Thursday!
10:15
Comment From ralph
Paul, do you have tons of top-secret awesome front office info from your time with the Rockies you could give if only you were allowed to?
10:16
Paul Swydan: Yes. Yes I do.
10:16
Comment From Floyd
Matt Kemp, 2013 Center Fielder wasn’t such a great thing either…
10:16
Paul Swydan: Is true.
10:16
Comment From Guest
A+ tease by Paul on his paywall content.
10:16
Paul Swydan: Thanks!
10:16
Comment From Lyle
I refuse to pay for ESPN insider
10:17
Paul Swydan: FWIW, we also post our ESPN Insider content on FanGraphs+. Which is significantly cheaper. Although I forget to do that a lot.
10:17
Comment From Ben Kaspick
Who you got if it’s Pirates/Cardinals?
10:17
Paul Swydan: After watching Mike Matheny for the past two years, I don’t think I’m real keen on picking a team he’s managing to win a playoff series.
10:18
Comment From David
who do you have Twins/Marlin in 2016 WS?
10:18
Paul Swydan: Ha. Dream on.
10:19
Comment From Dionysus
I want to take a moment and marvel: Fransisco Liriano, Bartolo Colon and, quite possibly, Ubaldo Jimenez and Scott Kazmir will all get to pitch in the playoffs. In 2013.
10:19
Paul Swydan: It is kind of amazing.
10:19
Comment From Wes
So if the Reds don’t come back here, what should they try to do this off season?
10:19
Dave Cameron: Hey, a pitching change.
10:20
Comment From Robert
I’m at a loss for why you guys are so eager to pull Liriano tonight. Yes, relievers generally tend to be better than starters who have gone through the lineup a couple of times. But Liriano is generally better than most relievers…he was a top 10 or so starter this year. And the more relievers you go through, the more likely you find the guy who just doesn’t have it tonight.
10:20
Dave Cameron: Actually, Liriano is not better than most relievers that would be used on a playoff team in an elimination game.
10:21
Dave Cameron: Relievers > Starters. It is that simple, basically.
10:22
Paul Swydan: RE: what Reds need to do – their most important thing may be trying to teach Tony Cingrani a third pitch. They also need to figure out what they’re doing in CF, obviously, and how they are making up the offense they’re going to lose from Choo.
10:22
Comment From Aussie Mariner
Are there any starters you would let through the same lineup three times in this situation?
10:22
Dave Cameron: Kershaw. Maybe Felix/Lee/Verlander/healthy Harvey.
10:23
Comment From chuckb
Relievers>starters really means that relievers are better at their job than starters are at theirs, right? It doesn’t mean that a guy like Watson would be better than Liriano if Watson started the game.
10:23
Dave Cameron: Right, it’s about performance in that next inning, not an overall talent evaluation.
10:23
Comment From bucs_lose_again
splits be damned!
10:24
Comment From Larry
Wouldn’t you rather have Yu over Verlander at this point?
10:24
Dave Cameron: The rush to write off Justin Verlander as an ace is weird.
10:25
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
He Choo-choo-chose a weird path to that ball
10:25
Paul Swydan: It’s kind of jarring how bad he is out there.
10:26
Comment From chuckb
Which division series are you looking forward to the most?
10:26
Dave Cameron: Pirates/anyone, in any series.
10:27
Comment From Lyle
Does it actually help position players when pitchers point to the sky on pop ups?
10:27
Paul Swydan: Well, I’m biased, so I have to say the Red Sox series. But Pirates/Cardinals is gonna be a lot of fun (assuming it happens), and I’m excited to see the Dodgers as well.
10:27
Comment From Floyd
Dodgers-Braves! Just to see if Puig’s antics combined with the stick up the Braves’ ass could lead to a riot
10:28
Comment From Tom
I saw Phil Coke point straight up on at least 5 monstrous home runs that he gave up this year
10:29
Comment From Steve
Does anyone else find it unlikely that Arby’s actually smokes their meat for 13+ hours?
10:29
Dave Cameron: By smoke, they mean the meat is kept in the area where employees take their smoke breaks.
10:30
Comment From chuckb
I do but I can’t help but laugh every time that guy says, “that’s longer than I smoke my meat.” Juvenile, I know, but I can’t believe that got past the marketing people.
10:32
Comment From scb
Is the difference in pitcher effectiveness at higher pitch counts similar to the difference between 1st time through the order and 2nd/3rd?
10:32
Dave Cameron: The two things are basically intertwined. On third time through the order, your pitch count is getting high. It’s likely a combination of the two factors.
10:32
Comment From Brian
Morneau gets over/ under 2/20 in FA?
10:33
Paul Swydan: Gonna say under by a bunch.
10:33
Dave Cameron: Way, way, way under. Like 1/4 is more likely.
10:34
Comment From Eric
As someone with skin in this game, I wish Hurdle would go to the bullpen already…
10:34
Dave Cameron: Would seem to make more sense to have an RHP warming, no?
10:36
Comment From James S
Double barrel: Wilson + Watson
10:36
Comment From carter
who is warming?
10:36
Dave Cameron: They showed Watson throwing.
10:38
Comment From Josh
When was the last time Liriano threw a fastball?
10:38
Comment From Ben
Maybe I missed this from earlier, but is anyone on the Reds coaching staff getting axed?
10:38
Dave Cameron: They won 90+ games. No.
10:39
Comment From WWMRD
That has to be it for Liriano right?
10:39
Dave Cameron: Believe he’s due up to hit, so yes.
10:40
Paul Swydan: 97.9 WE% now.
10:40
Comment From Gila Monster
I’ll ask again: Why is there no PED uproar about Byrd?
10:41
Dave Cameron: This is pretty neat.
10:42
Paul Swydan: A) Because he apologized. B) He plays nice with the media. C) No one cares about Marlon Byrd.
10:42
Comment From ralph
Don’t have game on at the moment — what’s pretty neat?
10:42
Dave Cameron: 96-year-old usher who started working for the team in 1939.
10:43
Paul Swydan: That guy has been working as a Pirates usher longer than my parents have been alive. That’s pretty amazing.
10:43
Dave Cameron: Crushed.
10:44
Comment From TicToc
right down the pipe
10:44
Comment From Guest
Absolute Piss Missile.
10:44
Paul Swydan: Well if that isn’t the fuzzy thing on top of the beret, I don’t know what is.
10:44
Comment From Dustin
The Yankees wish to point out that Vernon Wells hit some home runs too.
10:45
Comment From Josh
Hey! They’re actually chanting for someone on their own team!
10:45
Comment From James S
The Pirates have hit 9 HRs in the last two meaningful games against the Reds.
10:46
Comment From Brian
This Wild Card stuff is pretty good for the MLB.
10:46
Comment From Dustin
Travis Snyder: human victory cigar
10:46
Comment From Tyler
burnett or cole for game 1 vs STL?
10:46
Comment From Josh
Liriano chant now as he’s being PH for. Pittsburgh crowd is the best
10:46
Dave Cameron: Burnett
10:47
Paul Swydan: Would think it’s Burnett. Burnett-Cole-Liriano is a spicy meatball.
10:47
Comment From carter
why burnett, dave?
10:47
Dave Cameron: He’s better.
10:48
Paul Swydan: It should be noted that the fact that we still haven’t seen Chapman is a good argument for why he should have been used in the 4th or 5th.
10:48
Dave Cameron: “Only right-hander in Reds history to win his first seven decisions.” And that’s the dumbest stat ever.
10:51
Comment From Brian
If Pence got $90.. Choo will get 6/100? Over/ under?
10:51
Dave Cameron: Sounds about right.


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Jim
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Jim
2 years 9 months ago

Enough with the love for Pittsburgh. The Reds are here too

Hirohitahomerun already
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2 years 8 months ago

Nope.

Jake
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Jake
2 years 9 months ago

Unrelated to the chat, but why is Chicago media pushing so hard for Joe Girardi? Also, why are they using his 1 yr with the Marlins as evidence that he’s a good manager for a young team? He went 78-84, not exactly something to go out there and brag about.

meh
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meh
2 years 9 months ago

I think it would just look bad if Girardi (justifiably) walked away. Next year is going to be like this year, but they’re using Girardi has a stabilizing force… with a golden parachute. But he’s no dummy. You’re right. What kind of manager could he be with a club that didn’t have money to throw at every problem?

J.Henry Waugh
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J.Henry Waugh
2 years 9 months ago

I think above all Chicago wants a former Cubbie. Talk is Giradi because he’s seen as one who can manage, but equally because he fits into that other part of the equation, a beloved Cubbie. Since victories seem to elude the Cubs, fans are left with sentimentality. Two years ago they would have preferred Ryno but couldn’t get him, Maddux was giving it serious thought then bowed out, and Theo ended up w/ Sveum.

Ryno unavailable now, not sure if Maddux is available, so the next beloved Cubbie is Giradi.

Brian
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Brian
2 years 8 months ago

I really think Theo and Jed couldn’t care less if the guy they think is best for the job is a former Cub or not. The fans may want a former Cub, but I don’t think it’s a factor at all.

I hope that’s not how they’re making decisions at least.

Brian
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Brian
2 years 8 months ago

We have the same name.

Cy
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Cy
2 years 8 months ago

Hurdle managing extremely poorly despite the results. Melancon is not going to pitch in this game? How can that happen??

Spraying Mantis
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Spraying Mantis
2 years 8 months ago

Melancon has actually been kinda shaky as of late. I didn’t hate that move. The Wilson/Watson lefty reliever combo has also been pretty good.

Spraying Mantis
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Spraying Mantis
2 years 8 months ago

Plus, even though Choo touched him up, I see nothing wrong with attempting to neutralize the lefty part of this Reds lineup.

nerdybastard
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nerdybastard
2 years 8 months ago

Under over 5/60 for Jose dariel abreu?

Frank
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Frank
2 years 8 months ago

Just want to point to Swydan’s comment in the chat:
“Also, it’s not really all that true. 3.10 xFIP at home, 3.14 on the road. Using him in Game 2 – if possible – gives him the opportunity to start in Game 5 as well.”

xFIP is not park adjusted correct? so doesn’t this actually prove that Liriano is better of pitching at PNC since he’s consistently outperformed his xFIP there? Park is built for him

Visionary1
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Visionary1
2 years 8 months ago

Yeah, that occurred to me as well. xFIP seems like the wrong stat to use for home/away split. You’re not going to see a homer advantage in a k%, for example. I’d expect you’d find it in BABIP.
And now that I’ve said that…
yep. Home BABIP .231, away BABIP .335

Frank
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Frank
2 years 8 months ago

Yea if you look at his home and away numbers against RH the slash line has a huge difference….small sample size yes, but pretty large discrepancy.

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