The Dodgers Still Have Too Many Outfielders

Nearly a year ago on these very electronic pages, I wrote a post entitled “The Dodgers And Too Many Outfielders,” investigating the fact that the Dodgers had four starting outfielders — Yasiel Puig, Matt Kemp, Carl Crawford and Andre Ethier — for three spots, a situation that would only get more complicated when top prospect Joc Pederson arrived. A move, it seemed, was a necessity, and I counted down six ways it could happen.

A year later, a lot has changed, both in terms of how some of those players are viewed and in what outfield positions they play. But what never did change is that Ned Colletti wasn’t able to move any of his veterans, and now Andrew Friedman, Farhan Zaidi and company are left with an even more constricting situation. Puig, Kemp, Crawford, and Ethier are still Dodgers. Pederson put up the first 30/30 season in the PCL in decades on his way to winning the league MVP and Rookie of the Year awards before making his major league debut in September. Most unexpectedly, lightly-regarded backup Scott Van Slyke became one of the league’s most valuable bench players and clearly deserves more time.

Four outfielders? If only. These Dodgers have six, and if we thought a move last year was a probability, now it seems like more of an imperative. But how is this going to resolve itself? Here we go again.

First, let’s review what they have right now, showing 2014 performance, 2015 projection & age, and remaining dollars committed. The (*) for Puig is because of the clause in his contract that allows him to opt into the arbitration process after he has three years service time, which he almost certainly will, easily inflating the dollar amount shown here.

2014 stats 2015
Name PA HR AVG OBP SLG wRC+ WAR Steamer wRC+ Age Remaining Contract
Yasiel Puig 640 16 .296 .382 .480 147 5.1 145 24 4/$24m*
Scott Van Slyke 246 11 297 .386 .524 160 2.8 110 28 pre-arb
Carl Crawford 370 8 .300 .339 .429 119 2.5 107 33 3/$62.25m
Matt Kemp 599 25 .287 .346 .506 140 1.8 128 30 5/$107m
Andre Ethier 380 4 .249 .322 .370 98 0.7 109 33 3/$56m
Joc Pederson (MLB) 38 0 .143 .351 .143 68 0.1 105 23 pre-arb
Joc Pederson (AAA) 553 33 .303 .435 .582 164 n/a

Probably, two things jump out at you there. One, yes, that is a ton of money, roughly a quarter-billion dollar. Two, even with Ethier’s collapse to league-average and various other assorted issues, this was a highly-productive offensive group, arguably the best offensive outfield in baseball and the best for the team since the Dodgers moved to Los Angeles in 1958. For 2015, Steamer projects above-average seasons for each of them, and while I’ll take the under on Ethier, I might take the over on Van Slyke. You’ll notice that I’m speaking of offense only, because the defense was a never-ending mess that involved everyone but Crawford playing multiple positions, and Van Slyke actually starting 17 games in center. (!!) That will be need to be resolved, too.

Lists are the lazy writer’s best friend, but that worked out well enough last year and allows the opportunity to touch on each individual, so let’s do it again. Which should the Dodgers trade? Maybe more importantly, which can they trade? Counting down from least likely to most…

6) Trade Yasiel Puig.

This came in as “least likely” last year too, and for obvious reasons. Puig is young, he’s cheap, and he’s productive — in his two years in the bigs, he’s No. 6 in all of baseball in wRC+, a historic start to a career. He clearly overcame some of 2013’s unfocused mistakes and even managed to hold down center field reasonably well enough when forced there late in the season, though obviously there were warts too — a bad second half slump, season-long issues with stealing bases, and a dreadful NLDS performance that ultimately ended with him surprisingly on the bench for the final game.

After finishing No. 24 in our 2013 Trade Value Series, he was No. 5 this year because again, “young, cheap, productive.” We’ve heard a whisper here and there that the Dodgers would be open to moving him, with speculation ranging from attitude issues to off-field concerns to the more tangible worry that his all-out style of play leaves him open to injury. It certainly can’t be ruled out, but it would take a pretty massive return. Let’s leave this alone and move on.

 5) Trade Scott Van Slyke.

Fine, I guess? But then also, does it matter? Van Slyke isn’t the road block here, either in dollars or in playing time, and he also adds some flexibility with the ability to back up Adrian Gonzalez at first base. We should probably note that after being DFA’d in the fall of 2012, Van Slyke has turned his career around and then some — in 455 career plate appearances, he’s hit 20 homers with a line of .261/.348/.476 and a wRC+ of 134.

It’s fair to note that possible overexposure would make him look a lot less appealing, and much of his damage has been done in carefully selected doses against lefty pitching. He deserves to play somewhere, though, and Steamer/600 sees him as a two-win player. If the Dodgers can get something of value for him, sure, okay. Otherwise, he’s not the issue here.

4) Trade Matt Kemp.

A year ago, the best I could say about the first two years of Kemp’s contract was that while disappointing, “it’s hardly been a Josh Hamilton-level disaster.” After rushing back after more offseason surgeries on his ankle and shoulder, Kemp had a nice enough 124 wRC+ through May 22 in New York, a date selected here because it was when the team finally could take no more of his poor center field play and pushed him to left — or at least they did five days later when he resurfaced after all but disappearing while trying to accept the move. Kemp later said he wanted to return to center, and Jeff rightfully smashed that to pieces.

Near the deadline, when the topic of moving Kemp came up, Jeff had thoughts on that too:

Based on my own little calculator, between 2015 – 2019, Kemp might be projected for a little over 8 WAR. He’d therefore be worth about $60 million, giving him a negative value of about $47 million. The easiest way to understand that: based on these numbers, it would make sense for the Dodgers to trade Matt Kemp for nothing, while eating $47 million.

Jeff was right! Jeff is mostly always right. An oft-injured, defensively-lacking outfielder with decent-but-not-elite offensive production (Kemp had a 122 wRC+ when Jeff wrote that) doesn’t have value. Except… wow, that second half. As I wrote about in September, a return to health — with his shoulder healed, he’s finally able to turn on the inside pitch — and a mechanical change made second-half Kemp the second-best hitter in baseball, behind only Buster Posey. Counting the entire year, he was No. 16 overall. He was so great in the second half that — here’s Jeff again — pitchers all but stopped challenging him.

So what, then, is Kemp? 1.8 WAR isn’t impressive, though it’s safe to say that he’s never playing center again, as he did poorly for the first two months. His late-season performance was outstanding enough that it would likely revive trade interest in him, though the $107m due him and the history of injuries would still make it tough for the Dodgers to find value in return. For better or worse, the best place for him is in the Dodger lineup, especially with Hanley Ramirez likely departing.

3) Trade Joc Pederson.

This could happen! It might still happen. Pederson is one of the top prospects in the game, ranked as No. 15 by MLB.com, and his 2014 performance (in an admittedly high-octane PCL) did nothing to diminish that. Should anyone be concerned by a 28.9% K rate in 38 scattered September plate appearances? Nah. Should anyone be concerned by 26.9% K rate in 553 Triple-A plate appearances? Well, maybe. There’s always going to be some swing-and-miss in his game; it’s how much that will determine if he’s a star.

With such an outfield glut, one could easily see the Dodgers trading Pederson to fill holes elsewhere. Trade from strength, right? The problem with that is that Pederson is really the only true center fielder the Dodgers have, and outfield defense was such a disaster for the team in 2014 that simply punting on that is problematic. Puig was adequate there but is still probably best served in a corner, so if the Dodgers deal Pederson… then what? You imagine that if trading Pederson was on the table, it might have happened at the deadline for badly-needed pitching, though obviously we’re talking about a new regime here. Pederson just might find himself back in Triple-A to start 2015.

2) Trade Andre Ethier

You thought this was going to be No. 1, didn’t you? So did I. The problem is that Ethier is probably immovable in ways not all that dissimilar to how Ryan Howard is immovable. As Keith Law said last week, “I’ve seen fast-food eggs that looked less done,” and while that’s obvious hyperbole, Ethier also hit as many homers as Madison Bumgarner did. 33 in April, Ethier is no longer young, and in 2014 he added a new component to his career-long inability to hit lefty pitching (75 wRC+): He failed to crush righty pitching. Ethier had long been a nice platoon part stretched as an every day player,  but this year, he was merely league-average (102 wRC+) against righties.

It’s a single year, obviously, and Steamer likes him to bounce back. Maybe so. But I’m honestly having a hard time finding even a bad contract swap for Ethier. Howard and B.J. Upton aren’t fits for positional reasons. The O’s wouldn’t swap Ubaldo Jimenez for him. In order to move Ethier, the Dodgers probably need to eat $50m of that $56m contract and get nothing back in return for doing so. It’s probably what they’ll need to do.

But…

1) Trade Carl Crawford.

… you know, it was pretty easy to ignore that Crawford actually had a decent season in 2014. A .300/.339/.429 line (119 wRC+) with 23 steals isn’t bad at all, and it came on the heels of a surprisingly quiet three-win 2013. Obviously, there have been injuries in each year, and like Ethier he’s a clear platoon player, and he’s disappeared for weeks at a time, but the stink of his time in Boston may have been too much. Crawford isn’t anything like the star he was in Tampa Bay. He’s just a reasonably useful player.

Obviously, he’s not being paid like one, so the Dodgers would need to eat a considerable amount of this contract as well. So why Crawford, rather than Ethier? Because while I’d certainly take Crawford as being better in 2015, his presence is a bit more of a roadblock. You can stick Ethier on the bench and spot him at any of the three positions with moderately acceptable defensive results. Crawford is limited by his weak arm to left field. For a team with an opening — looking at you Cincinnati? — at the position, maybe that’s not a problem. In Los Angeles, it is.

Hey, any way this goes, short of trading Puig or Pederson, Dodger fans are not going to like what they get in return. That should be a given at this point, though. A situation that was difficult last year is completely untenable this year. Something has to change, and the fact that a completely new front office is in place — Friedman & Zaidi didn’t acquire any of these players, obviously — is going to make that a whole lot easier.

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Oh, and let’s not forget one other potential complication, too: 28-year-old Alex Guerrero, who definitely isn’t a shortstop and possibly isn’t an infielder at all. Guerrero put up a big offensive year in the minors (148 wRC+ in Triple-A) around being assaulted by Miguel Olivo, but his contract includes two fun clauses: one that says he can’t be sent to the minors after his first year, and another that says he can declare free agency at the end of any year in which he’s traded. The bat looks like it could be for real, he began playing outfield late in the year in Triple-A, and each of his three September appearances in the bigs came in left. The fun never ends!



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Mike Petriello lives in New York and writes about the Dodgers daily at Dodgers Digest, as well as contributing to ESPN Insider. He wrote two chapters in the 2014 Hardball Times Annual as well as building The Hardball Times and TechGraphs, and was an editorial producer at Sports on Earth. Find him at @mike_petriello.


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LHPSU
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LHPSU
1 year 6 months ago

Edwin Jackson is always on the front list of contract swaps, and the Cubs kind of have a need for both outfielders and bench players.

Doc Holliday
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Doc Holliday
1 year 6 months ago

The Cubs have about 6 or 7 prospects that will/could wind up getting their MLB ABs from the outfield. The one thing they need to do is not block any of those prospects.

tz
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tz
1 year 6 months ago

I think the Dodgers will move Kemp this off-season before he has a chance to become a 10/5 player and gain the right to veto a trade.

Maybe Kemp + half his 2018-19 salary ($21.5 million) to Seattle for Ackley and a cheap middle reliever.

Rihie
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Rihie
1 year 6 months ago

Take out Ackley, and it’s probably a fair deal.

Balthazar
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1 year 6 months ago

I have zero interest in a long-money, bad-body, guy with ‘mysteriously’ huge swings in his production at the plate—but some of the upper-office minds in Seattle’s FO have too much love for Kemp, so a swap could happen. There’s so much negative value in Kemp’s contract that actually giving up anything meaningful for him makes no sense, though. Yoervis Medina for Kemp and 60% of Kemp’s money owed would be something close to value, though to me Seattle should expect to get burned by taking on the risk in all that.

Ackley to the Dudgahs makes a ton of sense, and I thought so even last year. Put him back at 2B where he’s even better defensively, and his offensive numbers would already look nice. I could see an Ackely-Joc Pederson swap, and would actually love it. I don’t see LA giving up Pederson, though. Moreover, Jack Zd loves him his own drafts a bit too much to trade Ackley I think, which is unfortunate. Dustin’s a nice guy, and quietly better than his aggregates seem, but I think he’s near his ceiling now. At 2B he’s a keeper, but as an outfielder his overall value is below what’s needed in Seattle, even if better than first glance. Dustin isn’t the problem here, but he’s not the solution either as long as he’s in LF.

The most likely trade between these teams would be Yoervis Medina for Scott Van Slyke. Scott can hit, and fill in both outfield corners, 1B, and DH, and Seattle’s minds crave a RHB. Medina has always been a bad command late reliever with nasty raw stuff—mid-90s sinker, and now a crazy swerving slider. He was adequate as a set-up guy, but with even a slight improvement in command he’s closer good. LA needs some quality arms in the pen, and Medina would actually fill a useful role for him. This swap helps both teams immediately, is fairly priced, and clears some PT for LA for guys who will be in the picture long term which Van Slyke really isn’t (can he even repeat that kind of production?).

As to, What should LA do with the Mixed Six Pack? They should trade Puig while they can, but they won’t. Barring that, dump Ethier for peanuts, or cut him if they can’t move him. He’s a sunk cost, #6 in production and future expectations, and blocking both Pederson and now Guerrero in PT. The past LA GM cooked this particular gone goose, and the LA FO should just eat it at one bite and get over the indigestion in a hurry. A productive young guy in the lineup would be the right kind of Pepto-Bismol for the indigestion caused.

ChadT
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ChadT
1 year 6 months ago

I have to think the Dodgers would insist on Miller in any such deal.

ChadT
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ChadT
1 year 6 months ago

For Kemp, that is. Pederson would take a lot more.

Spa City
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Spa City
1 year 6 months ago

Ackley for Pederson striaght-up is absurd…

Perhaps if the Dodgers agreed to include Corey Seager and Julio Urias as well, they could work something out.

Michael
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Michael
1 year 6 months ago

You are flipping dreaming……Seager is not even being talked about and Urias,?? you are delusional

Gill King
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Gill King
1 year 6 months ago

Spa… In a list… with Pederson, Seager and Urias, value wise Ackley lands at the bottom.. hahaha.. dreamer..

Spa City
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Spa City
1 year 4 months ago

I just noticed that my attempt at sarcasm fell flat. There is no sarcasm font yet.

Gill King
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Gill King
1 year 6 months ago

Balth//// Clever, dumping your excess marginal players for understated value, and also love the way you find it so easy to dump MILLIONS of Dodger money. You probably make 30K/yr and wouldn’t know what to do with a portfolio if your daddy died and willed one to you. LOL
Dee Gordon the NL Starting all star 2B and led the majors in bags.. Ackley cant carry Gordon’s jock. I’ll stop here.. LOL

Michael
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Michael
1 year 6 months ago

Kemp is going NOWHERE…….Best OF on the team the 2nd half and when healthy a monster..Ethier will be moved for two plates of pasta and a ticket to a Rolling Stones concert cause that is about what he is worth…

AJ
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AJ
1 year 4 months ago

Love reading these type of comments after-the-fact.

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Hurtlockertwo
1 year 6 months ago

I think the Dodgers should keep them all and trade Kershaw. Of course I’m a Giants fan.

Stank Asten
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Stank Asten
1 year 6 months ago

Ethier didn’t collapse to league average. He is replacement level.

vivalajeter
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vivalajeter
1 year 6 months ago

“Two, even with Ethier’s collapse to league-average…You’ll notice that I’m speaking of offense only”

From an offensive standpoint, he was essentially league average.

Alex
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Alex
1 year 6 months ago

Carl Crawford for John Danks.

Gabes
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Gabes
1 year 6 months ago

I feel like the White Sox should be looking to take on one of these guys, probably Crawford. They have an obvious need at Corner OF, some payroll space with Dunn coming off the books, and a similarly ugly contact in John Danks (who might be a better option in the NL West with the more spacious ballparks) to deal. Am I totally nuts here, or should Rick Hahn be looking into this?

Corin
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1 year 6 months ago

Chad @ Dodgers Digest shared his thoughts on trading Ethier for Danks a couple of days ago at http://dodgersdigest.com/2014/11/03/mailbag-13-solving-the-of-squeeze-filling-the-rotation-trading-puig/

This is pretty interesting because they’re both rather mediocre. We’ve already went over Ethier’s contract, but Danks has two years and about $28 million on his deal, so again the Ethier contract is worse.

But while Ethier’s skills have declined, Danks is also on the downswing. Still only 30, Danks had his fifth consecutive season with declining fastball velocity in 2014 (91.7 mph to 88.5 mph), and his ERA of 4.74 and FIP of 4.76 in 2014 were his best marks since 2011.

That said, Danks struggles with the home run ball, giving up 53 in the last two seasons, and going from one of the worst environments for pitchers to one of the best should help him (not to mention the other teams/parks in the division). Plus, I guess there’s potential for him to get better the further away he gets from shoulder capsule surgery, but there’s not a ton to be optimistic about regarding shoulder injuries and recovery.

Regardless, Danks fits better with the Dodgers and their needs, and the White Sox‘s current outfield, even with Avisail Garcia on the mend, is Garcia, Adam Eaton, Jordan Danks, Michael Taylor, and Dayan Viciedo. So while Ethier might be sort of crappy now, besides Eaton, those options are worse.

I’m intrigued that this might actually make sense.

Professor Ross Eforp
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1 year 6 months ago

So what are the most likely returns?

Puig- Massive haul of MLB and MLB ready talent

Pederson- Similarly rated prospect and/or good MLB talent that is short-time

Van Slyke- Interesting, but flawed, prospect. Maybe a guy who is a late-bloomer. Or a league average type player who is expensive because he is late in arbitration.

Carl Crawford- Nothing of interest. I can’t imagine giving up much talent for him, but his contract might be palatable given its length and his ability to produce when healthy. Maybe an AL team deals for him knowing they can DH him sometimes. They may also be able to get good talent back if they take on a contract like Ryan Howard, but why piss that much money down the drain? He sucks and they have no use for him.

Matt Kemp- -$30MM for a couple of fringe MLB players.

Ethier- See Kemp.

I really think the play here is to trade Kemp and just eat the cash. Ethier’s contract is only for 3 more years and it’s possible last year was the outlier. I know he isn’t getting any younger, but he was at least an average MLB outfielder for a very long time.

Jason B
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Jason B
1 year 6 months ago

“I really think the play here is to trade Kemp and just eat the cash.”

Why? With his outstanding second half, why give him away for free when he can be a very useful and contributory piece?

Professor Ross Eforp
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Professor Ross Eforp
1 year 6 months ago

Because he just posted a wRC+ of 140 over nearly an entire season and managed a WAR of 1.8.

Dave G.
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1 year 6 months ago

How about a bullpen arm like Jeurys Familia plus a starting pitching prospect like Montero for Pederson? Familia was one of the better set up guys in the league last year. It sures up the Dodger pen and the Mets get an OF they need. Seems fair to me.

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vivalajeter
1 year 6 months ago

Doesn’t seem fair to me. Maybe there are cases I’m not thinking of, but it doesn’t seem that teams trade top-20 prospects for two lesser young players. It would be more equitable if Syndergaard was heading to LA, as he and Pederson are comparable prospects.

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1 year 6 months ago

How about trading Joc Pederson to the Twins for Miguel Sano? Uribe has one year left, I believe. The Twins could use an outfielder who’s ready for the majors, keeping Plouffe at 3rd. Other players could be included in the trade to even it out.

Ray
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1 year 6 months ago

Corey Seager will be ready in 2016.

jewellsd
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jewellsd
1 year 6 months ago

Sano is no guarantee to stick in the hot-corner.

T ball
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T ball
1 year 6 months ago

The Rangers might be a fit for Crawford. They’ll be moving Choo to RF. Not sure they can take on that much salary though.

george
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george
1 year 6 months ago

The tigers have 1.5 outfielders. Let me get Dave on the phone, but I think we’ll take Joc and Puig off your hands. Robbie Ray sound fair?

DUTCH4007
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DUTCH4007
1 year 6 months ago

Joc Pederson and Andre Ethier for David Price and tiger take all of Ethier’s contract.

Fiddletennis
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Fiddletennis
1 year 6 months ago

Joc Pederson for Johnny Cueto
Joc Pederson for Starlin Castro

topherdig
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topherdig
1 year 6 months ago

M’s don’t need another UNPROVEN prospect. I like Van Slyke better. He might do great playing with his Dad as coach.

jon
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1 year 6 months ago

I actually was wondering why nobody had suggested packaging Ethier (or Crawford) with Pederson yet. I’d love to see something like that happen.

Shankbone
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1 year 6 months ago

The new GM dream team just has to be patient, Billy Beane will come to them once he’s figured out how to blow up the A’s. He always dumps his guys in the NL West (Ethier, Cargo). Added advantage of trading with your old asst GM or a call to the guy you swapped Haren with. Beane doesn’t do small trades, he’ll go large. He’ll want 2 OFs – one expensive and paid for and one young and cost controlled, and he’ll throw something big to get it. Jeff the Shark?

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goquakers
1 year 6 months ago

Kemp and a bit of cash for Jon Niese. Dodgers get a useful back of the rotation arm on a nice contract while clearing up some of their logjam in the OF. Mets get the LF and righthanded power they need.

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Jim Price
1 year 6 months ago

Lots of teams with OF holes, and did you see the OF free agent market? If you have an OF hole to plug then you’ll need to trade. The Dodgers might be able to surprise. If the Tigers could unload Fielder and actually get something useful in return, then why not? That was an absolute anchor of a contract with 7 years left and it happened, it was like unloading both Ethier and Crawford.

topherdig
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topherdig
1 year 6 months ago

Could the Dodgers use Iwakuma a sub#1/ #2 SP? I know he has a team friendly contract and he would be a lot for M’s to give up but if he could get them the 2 OFers they desperately need, Kemp and Van Slyke and maybe more? I don’t know what he is worth to new GM. I think M’s can afford to give him if they have time to purchase SP FA, Lester or Scherzer?

topherdig
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topherdig
1 year 6 months ago

Maybe do a big trade between Dodgers and M’s with like I said above and add a top of the line RP for another Dodger position player?

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1 year 6 months ago

The Astros have a lot of payroll headroom (mgmt has said they expect to add 20m this offseason), a longterm need for a corner OF since Dexter Fowler is in his final year before FA, are no longer in push-everything-to-the-future mode, and mgmt has said explicitly that trades might be preferred to signing FA’s in terms of payroll adds since Houston probably still will have to pay a big noncontender premium to any good FA.

Depending on how much $ LAD eats (and it might be structured as to be 0 in 2015 and scaling up in later years), either Kemp or Crawford might be a fit for the Astros. A deal around either a semi-prospect like Tony Kemp (who has really hit well at AA but probably has no spot in Houston with Altuve signed longterm) or Jason Castro might be good fits for LAD.

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1 year 6 months ago

Trade Crawford to Cincy for Brandon Phillips, sell high on Gordon by dealing him for a catcher (Yasmani Grandal?), dump Ethier off for a highly-paid, buy-low #5 starter like John Danks or Ricky Nolasco, sign a reliever, and then pray that Arreubarrena can hit?

Frodo
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Frodo
1 year 4 months ago

close

Beau
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Beau
1 year 6 months ago

The Mariners and Dodgers seem like such a logical fit for a trade. The M’s are going to go hard after Kemp but I think an addition of Scott Van Slyke would have just as much or even more impact. Van Slyke had a high wOBA against lefties this season which would drastically help in that Mariner lineup. I think the Dodgers would command a bullpen arm and a minor leaguer.

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1 year 6 months ago

I’d like to add that Friedman could decide that he’s unhappy with all of his CF options defensively. He could look to ADD a CF and send away multiple outfielders in trades. #wheelin #deelin

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1 year 6 months ago

Ok lets be smart about this. Let’s not even for a second think about trading Kemp. He is back to normal and still has 2 to 4 good years left. Look how many hrs he hit in the second half. He could hit over 40 next year. Next trade crawford over etheiir. Why? I think he having to sit out this year would make him very hungry next year. And how many injuries has he had verses crawford. Get rid of crawford.

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DUTCH4007
1 year 6 months ago

Verlander for Crawford, DD forced to go into hiding, but Tigers will the deal in a landslide. Fielder Kinsler 2.0

John Drake
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John Drake
1 year 6 months ago

Forget contracts and money – what outfield do the Dodgers need moving forward?
RF – Puig, CF – Pedersen, LF – Kemp, Bench- Van Slyke. They need to get rid of the other 2. As a matter of cost, those contracts actually cost their value +30% as the Dodgers are in that bracket for the luxury tax.

Why can’t a trade deal be structured where the Dodgers cover 90% of the contract cost, but if the player performs – say Ethier were to hit .290+, 80 RBI’s, 15+ HR’s that the Dodgers could get some money back – a rebate – because the player bounced back and had a good year? A deal like that makes sense for both sides and I believe Ethier starting and playing every day still has some gas in his tank.

Regardless, dump Crawford and Ethier and end the outfield controversy.

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Yolie Scott
1 year 6 months ago

Everybody complains about Andre Either being such a bad player in 2014, how can the compare him to anybody when they shut him almost completely for almost half the season. How could he prove himself if he was always on the bench. Fair is fair but let’s be honest – he was given the chance to play like the rest of the outfielders.

Yolie Scott
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Yolie Scott
1 year 6 months ago

In my previous post I made several errors – my bad. it should have read “how can they compare him” – “he wasn’t given the chance to play”

jewellsd
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jewellsd
1 year 6 months ago

Isn’t Pederson also necessary as the only real center fielder?

chopers27
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chopers27
1 year 6 months ago

Puig for Stanton. I don’t think MIA will sign Stanton to an extension and he’s a local guy and Puig in MIA will bring more fans for them.

Toronto Fan
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Toronto Fan
1 year 6 months ago

How about a pure challenge trade, Daniel Norris for Joe Pederson

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