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	<title>Comments on: Twists and Turns in Colorado</title>
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		<title>By: Eric M. Van</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/twists-and-turns-in-colorado/#comment-189200</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric M. Van</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 01:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Glad someone pointed this out.  Okajima in this series had in fact had what is probably the worst run of BABIP luck I&#039;ve ever seen.  On successive balls in play over two games:

-- Routine popup that falls in the short OF, Daniel Nava quite possibly forcing Helton at 2B, but the ump didn&#039;t think so
-- Perfect DP ball that takes outrageous bad hop over Scutaro&#039;s head
-- A nearly identical popup for 2 RBI
-- A slow roller to 3B for an inf 1B
-- Foul out to 3B
-- Pop to SS
-- Infield hit when he&#039;s slow covering 1B on GB to Ortiz]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad someone pointed this out.  Okajima in this series had in fact had what is probably the worst run of BABIP luck I&#8217;ve ever seen.  On successive balls in play over two games:</p>
<p>&#8211; Routine popup that falls in the short OF, Daniel Nava quite possibly forcing Helton at 2B, but the ump didn&#8217;t think so<br />
&#8211; Perfect DP ball that takes outrageous bad hop over Scutaro&#8217;s head<br />
&#8211; A nearly identical popup for 2 RBI<br />
&#8211; A slow roller to 3B for an inf 1B<br />
&#8211; Foul out to 3B<br />
&#8211; Pop to SS<br />
&#8211; Infield hit when he&#8217;s slow covering 1B on GB to Ortiz</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/twists-and-turns-in-colorado/#comment-189058</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh well it&#039;d be freakin&#039; cool if you could.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well it&#8217;d be freakin&#8217; cool if you could.</p>
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		<title>By: suicide squeeze</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/twists-and-turns-in-colorado/#comment-188972</link>
		<dc:creator>suicide squeeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can&#039;t be the winning pitcher and get the save, so your situation wouldn&#039;t work, Steve.  I don&#039;t know about the first scenario though...it seems like you might get the save in that situation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t be the winning pitcher and get the save, so your situation wouldn&#8217;t work, Steve.  I don&#8217;t know about the first scenario though&#8230;it seems like you might get the save in that situation.</p>
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		<title>By: oompaloopma</title>
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		<dc:creator>oompaloopma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lou Pinella put Sean Marshall in LF also in a game against the Cards because he had no lefties in the bullpen. He brought in a RH to face one batter, then switched back to Marshall.  I think the rules would probably dictate a Win and Save if the cubs scored two after he pitched then came out for another reliever and back in the game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lou Pinella put Sean Marshall in LF also in a game against the Cards because he had no lefties in the bullpen. He brought in a RH to face one batter, then switched back to Marshall.  I think the rules would probably dictate a Win and Save if the cubs scored two after he pitched then came out for another reliever and back in the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently wondered this when, I think it was the Dodgers, put a pitcher in RF so another relief arm could come in and face one batter before the pitcher in right returned to the mound.  The only difference in my question was-is it possible for a starting pitcher to get a win and a save in the same game?  I think if he pitched into the 9th then moved out to RF for a batter before returning to finish a 2-0 game would qualify him for both the win and the save.  It would be cool but I doubt we&#039;d ever see something like that.  Although every once in a while a player will play at all 9 positions just because the manager wanted to have some fun so maybe it&#039;s not completely out of the realm of possibility.  Thoughts or Feedback anyone?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently wondered this when, I think it was the Dodgers, put a pitcher in RF so another relief arm could come in and face one batter before the pitcher in right returned to the mound.  The only difference in my question was-is it possible for a starting pitcher to get a win and a save in the same game?  I think if he pitched into the 9th then moved out to RF for a batter before returning to finish a 2-0 game would qualify him for both the win and the save.  It would be cool but I doubt we&#8217;d ever see something like that.  Although every once in a while a player will play at all 9 positions just because the manager wanted to have some fun so maybe it&#8217;s not completely out of the realm of possibility.  Thoughts or Feedback anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: KG</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/twists-and-turns-in-colorado/#comment-188949</link>
		<dc:creator>KG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Watching this game last night got me thinking: has any pitcher ever had a blown save and a save in the game?

For this to happen, I think the pitcher would have to:
1) Blow the save in the 9th inning and have the other team tie the game
2) Play the field in the 10th inning as another pitcher comes in
3) Have his team score in the top of the 11th inning
4) Move from the field back to the mound for the bottom of the 11th to get the save

Is this possible?  Any other ideas?

All in all, it was a great game to watch.  Also, your links to Berkman&#039;s and Heyward&#039;s games are broken, Jack.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching this game last night got me thinking: has any pitcher ever had a blown save and a save in the game?</p>
<p>For this to happen, I think the pitcher would have to:<br />
1) Blow the save in the 9th inning and have the other team tie the game<br />
2) Play the field in the 10th inning as another pitcher comes in<br />
3) Have his team score in the top of the 11th inning<br />
4) Move from the field back to the mound for the bottom of the 11th to get the save</p>
<p>Is this possible?  Any other ideas?</p>
<p>All in all, it was a great game to watch.  Also, your links to Berkman&#8217;s and Heyward&#8217;s games are broken, Jack.</p>
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		<title>By: Seels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okajima was better than Delcarmen even if the results didn&#039;t show it. Delcarmen was wild, Okajima&#039;s problems were being blooped to death. He gave up what, 4 hits, 5? 2 of them were infield hits that should have been outs, 2 more were bloops right past the infielders, and another one made it in because of how deep Cameron is. The fact that they all dropped in for hits is pretty amazing, but Okajima was pretty good despite what the box score says.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okajima was better than Delcarmen even if the results didn&#8217;t show it. Delcarmen was wild, Okajima&#8217;s problems were being blooped to death. He gave up what, 4 hits, 5? 2 of them were infield hits that should have been outs, 2 more were bloops right past the infielders, and another one made it in because of how deep Cameron is. The fact that they all dropped in for hits is pretty amazing, but Okajima was pretty good despite what the box score says.</p>
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