Velocity Decline Trends for June, 2012-13

Well friends, we are now approaching that time of year where a significant drop in a pitcher’s velocity passes the 50% threshold in terms of signaling that they will finish the year down at least one full mph.

Month 1 mph Drop No 1 mph Drop Relative Risk
April 38% 9% 4.2
May 47% 6% 7.8
June 55% 5% 11.0
July 56% 4% 14.0
August 53% 6% 8.8

The table above breaks out the percent of pitchers who experience at least a 1 mph drop in their four-seam fastball velocity in a month relative to that same month a year ago and who also went on to finish the season down a full 1 mph. It also shows the relative risk — meaning, the increased likelihood that a pitcher will experience a true velocity loss at season’s end when compared to those pitchers that didn’t lose 1 mph in that month.

For example, pitchers that lost velocity in May finished the season down a full 1 mph 47% of the time, compared to just 6% that didn’t lose 1 mph in May — an increased likelihood of 7.8.

Here is your list of pitchers that lost at least 1 mph in June of 2013 compared to last June:

Now, remember, the relative risk outlined above and in previous studies only holds for pitchers that were in the same role (i.e. starters or relievers) in both 2012 and 2013. I’ve noted in the table which pitchers fit that criteria for 2013. The 2-Year Decline column notes if this pitcher suffered the same kind of decline the previous year (so, June 2012 compared to June 2011). I’ve also listed those pitchers where I had data on their velocity trends from May 2012 to May 2013, with negative values representing a velocity loss during last month.

Jason Marquis continues to pitch at a below-average level, posting a 107 ERA- and 163 FIP- so far in 2013. In June, Marquis saw his velocity decline for a second straight month relative to last year — 3.1 mph compared to last June after 1.4 compared to last May. Now, Marquis relies mostly on his sinker, but that pitch is also down relative to last year.

Matt Moore has had a bit of an up and down season, starting 2013 with 11 straight games where he gave up four or fewer runs. He then gave up six, nine, and five over his next three starts before his last three starts of three, one, and zero runs allowed. Moore’s biggest issue this season has been walks — after posting a 10.7% BB% last season he’s actually increased his walk rate in 2013 (12.6%). Lucky for Moore he’s decreased his HR/FB, so he hasn’t been hurt as much by the extra base runners he’s allowed. Still, I would keep my eye on Moore as his velocity declined 2.3 mph in May and 2.2 in June. It’s possible he’s trading velocity for attempts at better control, but he has pretty much been down the entire season and his walk rate has not improved significantly over time.

The other interesting name for me on this list is Zack Greinke. It’s true that Greinke’s velocity could be off a bit given that he missed time with a broken collarbone, and that was after some elbow drama during spring training. However, he came back from the disabled list in mid-May and he’s suffered velocity loss in both May and June. Greinke has been slightly below average in terms of ERA and FIP and is now sitting around 90-91 mph on average with his fastball. He is in his age-29 season, so it wouldn’t be all that odd to see him starting to lose more significant velocity. On average, starters lose about .5 mph between ages 28 and 29 and that begins the steeper decline portion of their aging curve. Strikeout rate, which is also down about 6% this year for Greinke, also begins a steeper decline around 29-30 years of age as well.

Oh, and one of the happiest teams with this list? Probably the Yankees, since CC Sabathia isn’t on it. Yes, he still posted a lower June velocity than last year (-.7 mph), but he’s below the 1 mph threshold and that’s an improvement based on his April and May (down -1.9 mph in both).




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22 Responses to “Velocity Decline Trends for June, 2012-13”

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  1. Steve says:

    Cashner, eh? Do you see him regressing in the second half of the season partly because of his velocity?

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    • bdhudson says:

      I think Cashner’s velo drop might have more to do with a mechanical change to help him stay healthy throughout the season as a full-time starter. His k-rate has dropped, but his control is much improved and his GB% is still very good. He’s less sexy, but his performance isn’t a mirage I don’t believe

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      • Blockhead says:

        Cashner was a starter in June last year. He had 8.2 IP as a starter compared to 2.2 IP as a reliever.

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        • bdhudson says:

          Right. And then he made one start in July and missed two months due to injury. When he came back, his velocity was lower, his command better, and he hasn’t missed a start since. (minus that weird hunting knife thing)

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    • Charlie says:

      It’s up for debate whether he can keep that low of a BB%.

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      • bdhudson says:

        Well, sure, everything is up for debate. But his first strike % has gone up, his zone % has gone up, blah blah etc etc. He’s only had multiple walks in 3 of 13 starts. He’s not trying to overpower people, and that tends to lead to improved command.

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    • Lane Rizzardini says:

      I am guessing Cashner’s velocity decline has a lot more to do with his switch to starter. He’s trying to stay in games longer, have more control, which also explains his drop in strikeouts. As a reliever he was just throwing fire.

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      • bdhudson says:

        I would agree. His handful of relief appearances this season were in line with his previous velocity marks

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    • sgnthlr85 says:

      There was a good read on Cashner’s true trouble being his loss of his hard slider. http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/missing-andrew-cashners-hard-slider/

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      • PillsburyFlowboy says:

        My interpretation of that wasn’t that he isn’t throwing his hard slider anymore, but that’s he’s lost a few MPH of off all his pitches. 4 MPH drop on his FB=4 MPH drop on his slider. I just think he isn’t selling out and putting max effort into every offering any more now that he’s starting.

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  2. rob says:

    Should not Verlander be on there?

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  3. Floppy says:

    I just traded Moore and Oswaldo Arcia for B.J. Upton and Kyle Gibson. Did I give up too much for a buy-low Upton, or was I lucky to get anything for Moore given his crazy BB% and tough division?

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    • Dirck says:

      IMHO you gave up too much,but I am thinking from the perspective of a dynasty points league .Arcia already looks like a better hitter than Upton and I believe that the Twins would be ecstatic if Gibson becomes what Moore is right now . If you are in a league where sb are important ,then BJ gives you that ,but such leagues typically count strikeouts also ,and there Moore is much better than Gibson .You also lose quite a bit on age with Arcia vs Upton.

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      • Floppy says:

        Non-dynasty, non-keeper H2H 6×6 with BB and holds extra cats. I had been streaming Moore already and have been actively shopping him since early in the season FWIW.

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  4. DD says:

    Curious about Papelbon – with a 2 year decline, should the Phils be even more inclined to deal him, fearing a drop off in production in the near future?

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  5. Jack says:

    Strasburg is on there. I know his velocity is still way higher than most pitchers, but could this decrease be a sign that he is going the way of Matt Cain, down to a low 90s fastball from a high 90s first few years?

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  6. Brian says:

    I didn’t know Zito had a fastball to lose velocity on.

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  7. Hurtlockertwo says:

    I was interested to hear during the Homer Bailey no hiiter last night that his velocity had acutually increased “several” MPH. I’m fairly sure he didn’t throw 97mph in the past??

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  8. Wobatus says:

    Greinke getting it up to 93 tonight. In Colorado, his second start there. Cutting him some slack. Elbow in spring, rushed back from collarbone. Iffy but could have second half rebound.

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  9. boomer says:

    Interesting that there are 7 current or former Rockies on this list. Brothers who has been lights out this season gave up 2 HR tonight, could it be his decline in velocity led up to this??? Very interesting indeed…

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  10. Dan says:

    Esmil Rogers velocity drop is not because he is starting. Pat Hengten taught him how to throw a sinker right before he joined the rotation and he has used that primarily since. Sinker sits at 93 vs. his 4 seam at 95-96. Its the primary reason he has been so effective since joining the rotation

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