Will A.J. Ellis Develop Any Power?

The Dodgers ranked 30th in our positional power rankings for catchers last week in a close race with the Pirates. Matt Treanor, the backup catcher, doesn’t have anything left and it’s unclear what Tim Federowicz will provide or how often he will even play. The de facto starter, A.J. Ellis, is better suited for backup duty yet will likely amass 450+ PAs. Put together, it’s an ugly situation behind the plate.

In response to that ranking, through comments, e-mails, and on Twitter, it became clear that Dodgers fans thought that Ellis was being undervalued. After all, his ZIPS projected on-base percentage of .356 was higher than any other catcher in the bottom half of the positional rankings.

The problem is that, while Ellis has always boasted serious on-base skills, his slugging inability is a substantial detriment to his overall value.

Over 206 major league PAs, Ellis has a .262/.360/.330 line, with a slugging percentage as uninspiring as his on-base percentage is impressive. It isn’t just a matter of getting used to big league pitching either, as his career minor league slugging mark is just .380, with the last three years being spent in the notorious Albuquerque Isotopes launching pad.

Turning 31 years old this year, it sure seems unlikely that his development will take a major step forward, and that was one of the main factors in ranking the Dodgers backstops last for the upcoming season. But, historically, how have players in similar situations fared?

Is Ellis just a late bloomer primed to start slugging after the typical peak years?

The first step here involved defining players similar to Ellis. To that end, I pooled together all non-pitchers who tallied 200+ plate appearances throughout their first three seasons. Sticking with data from 1950-onward, there were 2,540 distinct players fitting this criteria.

Of that larger group, only 122 players were at least 30 years old in their third season. Intuitively, that makes sense, as major leaguers are usually established by their age-30 season, with several years under their belts, or it’s established that they aren’t major leaguers. And since getting even one plate appearance in a season qualified it as a countable season, many players who were 30+ years old by their third year of regular playing time had several cups of coffee in their twenties.

Only 40 of those 122 players posted slugging percentages that matched or fell below Ellis’s career .330 mark. Fitting these pieces together, Ellis is in a rare situation to begin with, as an older player without much major league experience. His air is even more rarefied when slugging percentage is introduced, as very few major leaguers have ever posted a rate that low while being at least 30 years old through their first few seasons. Again, this follows intuition, as 30+ year old players lacking any semblance of slugging ability are unlikely to garner more playing time.

In fact, of those 40 players, only 13 managed to play three more seasons after the initial three in the span. Those 13 players consisted of eight catchers: Russ Gibson, Mickey Grasso, Ken Huckaby, Jerry McNertney, Ray Murray, Mike Sadek, Danny Sheaffer and, lo and behold, Matt Treanor. The group also featured four shortstops in Alex Grammas, Gene Michael, Roberto Pena and Jeff Reboulet. The lone non-C/SS was Champ Summers, an outfielder whose first three seasons came in 1974-76. Fittingly, Summers didn’t fall in line with the rest of the pack.

The 12 aforementioned catchers and shortstops posted average slugging percentages ranging from .233 to .368 over their 4th-6th seasons, after maxing out at .330 in their first three campaigns. Suffice to say, they never developed any true power at the major league level. Remove Murray’s .368 SLG and the range is .233-.340. They also posted average on-base percentages ranging from .237 to .338; during their first three seasons, the highest OBP was Reboulet’s .335 mark.

Summers was the odd man out, as he actually did develop both power and on-base skills. After a .283 OBP/.300 SLG during his first three seasons, Summers produced an impressive .371 OBP/.506 SLG over his 4th-6th seasons.

It makes some sense that the group predominantly features catchers and shortstops: it’s okay for backup catchers and utility infielders to lack pure slugging ability, because they aren’t on the team to start everyday. And if they are, it’s usually because their defensive wizardry makes up for offensive ineptitudes.

Ellis doesn’t have many historical comps based on age and experience, and that number shrinks substantially when trying to match his career slugging percentage. Of the very small sample of players that managed to match more of his attributes and managed to stay in the major leagues — Summers excluded — none developed any slugging or on-base skills. Granted, not much can be determined from such a small sample of comparable players, but that’s kind of the point — selection bias tends to weed these players out, which makes it difficult to gauge Ellis’s future.

The key differentiating factor here is Ellis’s impressive OBP, which has translated to the major league level, albeit over a minuscule sample size.

Scouts praise his defensive ability, and his on-base skills seem legitimate, but the odds aren’t in his favor as far as ever hitting for more power.

How that combination of skills plays over 500 PAs remains to be seen, but it isn’t unreasonable to think of Ellis as a solid backup catcher being pressed into starting duty. The Dodgers would do well to allocate playing time among all three of their catchers instead of relying on Ellis as the lineup’s regular.



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Eric is an accountant and statistical analyst from Philadelphia. He also covers the Phillies at Phillies Nation and can be found here on Twitter.


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Uli440
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Uli440
4 years 4 months ago

Will A.J. Ellis develop any power? Who knows… Baseball is a funny game. Maybe this is the year it finally jelqs for him.

Dave Pomerantz
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Dave Pomerantz
4 years 4 months ago

“Scouts praise his defensive ability”

Then why was his defense a “-1” in the positional power rankings?

Jon Weisman
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4 years 4 months ago

I’m not clear on why this is the central question on Ellis. We didn’t sit around asking, “Will Jamey Carroll develop any power?” or “Will Mark Ellis develop any power?” Or, for that matter, “Will Rod Bajaras develop any on-base skills?”

It’s likely from a power standpoint, Ellis is what he is. Ellis’ skill is that he brings OBP to a defensively valuable position. I can see asking, “Will A.J. Ellis maintain his OBP skills in the big leagues?” Because if he does that, the Dodgers and their fans will be plenty thrilled, I assure you. If he OBPs .350 while playing solid catcher, that’s plenty.

wily mo
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4 years 4 months ago

yeah, this ended on kind of a strange note. all that energy deciding that he doesn’t have any power and probably never will, which doesn’t seem that controversial. dodger fans were probably just saying that a catcher who plays defense and gets on base is fine, right? and isn’t it? not that they think he’s going to turn into brian mccann.

so you conclude no, no power, then hastily note the good OBPs, admit they seem legitimate, punt on digging any deeper there, and wind up by saying “but he’s a backup so screw him, basically.” it just seems like… i mean, who are you arguing with.

Jon Weisman
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4 years 4 months ago

Thanks for clarifying, Eric.

AG3
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AG3
4 years 4 months ago

I think he is a in between type catcher. Not bad enough with the bat to be just a back up and not good enough to be non-replaceable. I think if paired with a lefty hitting catcher, preferably one with more power like Jaso or Kottaras, it would make for a rather effective platoon.

Bip
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Bip
4 years 4 months ago

Based on career averages, Ellis projects to be worth around 2 wins in 500 PA. If we give him the benefit of the doubt defensively he could be closer to 3 than 2. Not only is that perfectly fine for a big league starter, it’s more than the Dodgers expect to get from most of their positions last year, and it more than a lot of teams got from any catcher last year.

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JMN19
4 years 4 months ago

I tend to doubt that a 31 year old catcher who isn’t used to handing a huge load can be expected to come close to 500 PA without the rigors of the position dragging his offensive and maybe even defensive numbers down. I fully expect that Ellis is a starter in name only, but I look for him to get under 400 PA than over it.

delv
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delv
4 years 4 months ago

Francisco Cervelli is somewhat comparable, but with a bit less BB% and a bit better contact ability.

Mark W
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Mark W
4 years 3 months ago

I was on the edge of my seat for the conclusion of this one.

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