World Series Game 3 Live Blog

7:24
Matt Klaassen: Welcome to my first chat in… a long time. That’s just how desperate things are around here: I’m running a chat on a Saturday night World Series Game. Send ‘em in and we’ll get going pretty soon.
7:27
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Provide content damn it
7:29
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7:30
Comment From BH
How many grandmothers will be startled when OU/Texas Tech suddenly starts airing on Fox News at 6:30 CDT?
7:31
Comment From Z S
Hi Matt, what do you think of Kelly getting the nod for game 3 over Lance Lynn (and the long lost Shelby Miller, for that matter)?
7:32
Matt Klaassen: Well, I think Lynn is better than Kelly, but obviously Matheny likes Kelly here. There is objective evidence that Miller may have been gassed near the end of the season, and the Cardinals seem to agree.

7:32
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Oh boy. Its 7:30. Only 6 more patriotic songs until game time!
7:34
Matt Klaassen: How did A.J. Pierzynski get this post-season gig? Not saying he’s horrible, just seems like a weird choice.
7:35
Matt Klaassen: Any word on what cause Rosenthal is wearing his bow tie for????
7:36
Matt Klaassen: Hopefully Jeff Z. will be around soon.
7:37
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Am I the only Jays fan without any ill will towards John Farrell? The man obviously made the right decision.
7:37
Matt Klaassen: Seems like the right decision for both parties: Farrell wanted a different job, and the Jays rightly didn’t want to keep a manager who would rather be somewhere else.
7:39
Matt Klaassen: Oh yay more Chris Carpenter. Hope he can teach the young guys who to swear at batters, then throw a hissy fit over any perceived slight.
7:43
Matt Klaassen: Can’t wait to see how the people in charge of Catching Fire continue to miss the point of the books.
7:43
Matt Klaassen: Um, not that I read them or anything.
7:44
Comment From paul
Have to imagine Kelly is on a short leash. Who is the Cardinals long man if they need a guy in the early innings?
7:45
Matt Klaassen: Honestly, I’m not exactly sure. Maybe they try Miller for a couple of innings until they get to the other guys? They might not think he can give then five or six quality innings as a starter, but two might be do-able.
7:46
Matt Klaassen: Only 50 more minutes until the first pitch! Okay, that’s just existential minutes, but you gotta take that stuff seriously.
7:47
Matt Klaassen: Just so you all know how special you all are: I actually went to the basement and fished out an extension cord for my laptop for tonight’s game.
7:47
Comment From Guest
Matt, you live in Toronto, what are the chances someone goes to a bar tonight in Toronto (on a Saturday) when the Leafs are playing the Penguins and gets the bar to play the World Series on just 1 TV?
7:49
Matt Klaassen: That is a great question. I would think it would be on at least one TV in most bars. but what do I know, they might be really into Corner Gas.
7:49
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Can’t wait to see which old rocker they trot out to sing the national anthem
7:49
Matt Klaassen: I hope it’s the cast of Mama’s
Family, the last St. Louis-based sitcom.
7:50
Matt Klaassen: My pick for this game: there is a 100 percent chance of a team I dislike winning.
7:50
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
I would hope that at this point Canadian bars are showing Trailer Park Boys over Corner Gas
7:50
Matt Klaassen: This country has no idea what its best features are.
7:52
Matt Klaassen: Hating the Cardinals just isn’t the same without Transition Shades and Chris Carpenter.
7:53
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7:53
Matt Klaassen: What version of Kashmir is this?
7:54
Matt Klaassen: I have no idea who this singer is.
7:55
Matt Klaassen: Yeah, P Diddy, thanks, people.
7:56
Matt Klaassen: I’ll make sure and keep you all updated on any awesome Canadian commercials that you’re missing out on. I assume that’s why you’re here, since it surely can’t be for baseball analysis.
7:57
Matt Klaassen: Anyone else like this NFL commerical that mentions how lousy helmets used to be? Never change, Industry of Death.
7:57
Comment From cd
Gimme some Raptor news. Oh, sorry, wrong blog.
7:58
Matt Klaassen: It supposed to be right before the Tribulation, I think. Oh, wait, I thought you wrote “Rapture.”
7:58
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Don’t forget about the wisdom of Jamie Campbell and Gregg Zaun!
7:58
Matt Klaassen: And Zaun’s pinstriped playoff suit.
7:59
Comment From Jonathan
I really don’t understand the hate for the Cardinals. They are just a really good organization. I get why everyone hates the Yankees – they spend a lot of money on FA, it appears they “buy” their teams. Same for the Red Sox.
8:00
Matt Klaassen: Personally, just to be straightforward, I dislike the Red Sox just as much. With the Cardinals, much of it has to do with the self-proclaimed “Best Fans in Baseball,” a moniker promoted by “objective” media members like Joe Buck.
8:01
Matt Klaassen: And before anyone says “We don’t call ourselves that, The Sporting News Did”: The Sporting News was (at the time) a St. Louis-based publication.
8:01
Comment From Ruki
Don’t hate the players, hate Joe Buck.
8:01
Comment From Z S
People hate the Cardinals because they win all the time and it’s boring to watch the same team in the playoffs year after year. I’m from STL and a huge fan, but it’s not a mystery.
8:02
Comment From cd
I always found The Sporting News really boring, so it makes sense it finds its origins in St. Louis. No offense to the great people of St. Louis, etc.
8:02
Comment From TFS
Tim McCarver countdown: min 3 max 5 before he retires
8:03
Matt Klaassen: Well, he’s done with the ASG and post-season after this year… .do you mean totally retires? No idea.
8:03
Comment From Shark Mapiro
I hope Boston wins, their fans deserve a break from the torture that they seem to think still befalls them.
8:03
Comment From jesse
papi better than egdar?
8:03
Comment From AJT
Edgar Martinez doesn’t exist apparently
8:03
Matt Klaassen: Didn’t hear the exact line, but Papi can’t hold Frank Thomas’ jock, either.
8:04
Jeff Zimmerman: Finally made it, I just can’t handle the pre-game festivities.
8:05
Comment From Donnie
I think some guys in the Sabermetric community is missing one important aspect of baseball. One great example is the recent situation where Mike Matheny chose to stick with Carlos Martinez instead of going with Choate. Lots of Sabermetric nerds were all over Matheny for that. What they don’t take into account is “current form”. Ie, Matheny perhaps, knowingly or unknowingly, saw signs in Martinez delivery (and the way Ortiz were swinging) that actually made his call even the right theoretical choice. So many sabermetricians are stuck on numbers, disregarding what a players mechanics may look on a particular night. Your thoughts Matt?
8:05
Matt Klaassen: Well, I think we have to acknowledge that managers/teams/etc. know stuff like this, but at least in my circles, saberists are generally willing to acknowledge stuff like that.
8:06
Jeff Zimmerman: or Martinez could be a stud
8:06
Matt Klaassen: Hey, when did Jeff get here?
8:06
Jeff Zimmerman: Right before that huge comment.
8:06
Matt Klaassen: I’m glad he’s here so I can take a break to watch an old Monk episode if the game gets out of hand.
8:09
Comment From Junior
When is someone going to throw a ball or something?
8:09
Jeff Zimmerman: Finally.
8:09
Comment From GQ
I am huge Cardinals fan, so probably biased, and trying not to be overly influenced by the beards, but Cardinals players are quite a bit better looking than the RedSox — average score of 8 vs 3
8:10
Matt Klaassen: Clay Buchholz is laughing at Kelly — this kid is going to burn himself out throwing pitches so often.
8:10
Jeff Zimmerman: Kelly looks a bit like Bradley Woodrum
8:10
Matt Klaassen: Career wRC+: David Ortiz 138; Edgar 147; Big Hurt 154
8:11
Comment From Ryan
When following a game online, do you prefer GameCast (ESPN), GameDay (MLB), or something else?
8:12
Jeff Zimmerman: MLB, I like the pitch speeds.
8:12
Matt Klaassen: I always use GameDay, but an open to other stuff.
8:12
Comment From Scruffy, the janitor
The Big Hurt is one of baseball’s best nicknames. Right after the Big Unit
8:12
Comment From Brian
98 with movement is sick
8:13
Matt Klaassen: Not sure the Cardinals will ever have consistent success with a manager with so little experience, ya’ll.
8:16
Comment From RageAgainstTheNarrative
c-o-w-e-i-e-i-o
8:16
Matt Klaassen: So Jeff, are the using Kauffman Stadium’s Pitchf/x stuff in St. Louis toonight?
8:16
Jeff Zimmerman: Not sure
8:17
Comment From Rick
Has anyone ever tried to quantify whether post-season experience makes a difference in player performance? It seems like you could do it, but there would be serious selection bias.
8:17
Matt Klaassen: Do you mean whether it should be incorporated into projections?
8:18
Jeff Zimmerman: Kelly can reach 99, but it is really uncommon. Peavy’s speed looks fine.
8:18
Comment From Rick
No, just whether players with past post-season experience perform better in subsequent post-seasons than comparable players without prior experience.
8:20
Jeff Zimmerman: I have never seen one.
8:20
Comment From Too Many Matts?
Matt, how do you feel about the overuse of your first name? Three of first four hitters in Cards lineup named Matt, sweet fancy moses!
8:20
8:21
Comment From DavidJ
Big Hurt vs. Big Unit: .233/.389/.628 in 54 PA. (5 HR, 18 K)
8:22
Matt Klaassen: Element of Surprise!
8:22
Jeff Zimmerman: He needed to hit a bit harder and he may have had a Cano double.
8:23
Matt Klaassen: Saw a suggestion on Twitter that Beltran might have more pain when hitting from the left side, hence the bunt (partly). Not saying it’s true, just through it out there.
8:23
Matt Klaassen: I see one of out commentators mentioned it, too. sorry, just no ticed it.
8:23
Jeff Zimmerman: BTW, during the regular season, bunts against the shift were successful for hits 50% of the time.
8:23
Comment From Ryan
Re: Overuse of “Matt”– What’s the most accomplished First Name in sports? Barry makes a surprisingly strong effort (Bonds and Sanders). Anything else come to mind?
8:23
Matt Klaassen: Matt Stairs. ’nuff said.
8:23
Comment From Brian
that wins the worst bunt of the year easily, right?
8:24
Jeff Zimmerman: possibly
8:24
Matt Klaassen: Can’t say until I go over the Royals’ game logs.
8:24
Comment From Special Ghost
Luke Scott once bunted for singles three times in one game vs. his shift!
8:24
Matt Klaassen: Is this true? If so, that’s pretty awesome.
8:25
Comment From Too Many Matts?
Matt is 3 for 3 in 1st inning, FYI
8:26
Matt Klaassen: BOOYAH
8:26
Comment From Mr. Wrestling IV
For nicknames I was always partial to the Big Cat
8:26
Jeff Zimmerman: Looks like Matt may be watching Monk tonight.
8:27
Matt Klaassen: It’s just a really appealing show. “Hey, let’s make an OCD character so extreme and whiny that he’s totally unlikable!”
8:27
Comment From Tom
Speaking of Royals, MLBTR predicted 5 years, 75 million for Ervin Santana. That’s madness, right?
8:28
Jeff Zimmerman: Yes, but every year there are 1-2 huge pitcher over pays because teams need a starter.
8:28
Matt Klaassen: Giants fans think that’s a total steal!
8:29
Comment From Special Ghost
Scott’s bunts make Blue Jays rethink shift
8:31
Comment From Mr. Wrestling IV
Monk question: Did you prefer Sharona or Natalie?
8:32
Matt Klaassen: Can’t believe I’m admitting to have watched the show… but as far as the show goes, I though the episodes with Sharona were better. Probably because the show was fresher the viewer hadn’t grown sick of his childishness.
8:32
Jeff Zimmerman: I agree players should bunt, but some players just won’t. In 2013 Chris Davis’ BABIP vs. the shift was .302, no shift it was .425
8:32
Comment From MS Dhoni
randy marries sharona in the finale
8:33
Matt Klaassen: Tthere were hints that they wanted randy to end up with Natalie, too, but I think the producers made peace with the actress who played Sharona and wanted to wrap up her storyline.
8:33
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
MonkGraphs
8:33
Matt Klaassen: It is one of those shows that makes you wonder how Stottlmeyer and Randy ever advanced as far as they did.
8:34
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
At least one person is now pissed about spoilers
8:34
Jeff Zimmerman: I wonder if the next pitch will be away.
8:35
Jeff Zimmerman: Who is this Nava guy?
8:36
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Damn it Jeff stop talking about baseball
8:36
Jeff Zimmerman: HOLY COW
8:36
Comment From Brian
no more jonny gomes – good luck charm?
8:36
Comment From Ruki
I have Nava clue, Jeff.
8:36
Comment From Frank
WOW
8:37
Comment From Ruki
Matt Carpenter, master defender.
8:37
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Pete Kozma saw that and cried a little inside
8:38
Comment From Brian
kelly’s breaking pitches are really tight, he just doesnt always have the greatest command of them
8:39
Matt Klaassen: I remember when Carson and I did a playoff chat a year or two ago and one guy got REALLY MAD that we weren’t talking baseball enough.
8:40
Jeff Zimmerman: Did you talk baseball at all?
8:40
Comment From Scruffy, the janitor
This is the opposite of a Cameron chat
8:40
Comment From Mr. Wrestling IV
Was that one guy Carson?
8:40
Matt Klaassen: YES, Jeff, we did.
8:40
Comment From Joe Kellys Goggles
Do you think Carpenter starts next season at 2B or 3B?
8:41
Matt Klaassen: We’re talking about Chris, right?
8:41
Comment From Red
In fairness Carson probably wasn’t even watching the game
8:41
Comment From Casey
I feel like getting REALLY MAD at Carson would be like getting REALLY mad at Vin Scully or the Dali Lama…..
8:41
Comment From Hams
I was here for that and kept asking off-topic questions.
8:41
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Carson? Playoffs? Chat? Go home, you’re drunk.
8:42
Jeff Zimmerman: “Kelly does something”
8:43
Matt Klaassen: Jake Peavy: all pumped when they are winning, quiet when he’s not pitching well. A front runner, perfect for Boston. Can’t believe he isn’t a Celtic.
8:44
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Jake Peavy: Direct descendant of Braveheart
8:44
Matt Klaassen: McCarver, the main reason I’d be concerned about Peavy is because he’s throwing a 88 mph fastballs with bad location.
8:45
Comment From Not Matt
Off topic, I played high school baseball against Joe Buck
8:45
Jeff Zimmerman: I did not.
8:45
Comment From zmiko
You should beaned him
8:46
Matt Klaassen: So what, I shared a hotel room with Jeff Zimmeran of FanGraphs and freelance consulting at consecutive Spring Trainings.
8:47
Comment From Casey
Im sure being Jack Buck’s kid didnt get him ANY special treatment whatsoever.
8:47
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Maybe it was a bean to the head that made him the way he is
8:49
Matt Klaassen: I think Jeff will agree that the Royals loved that first inning of offense from the Cardinals: bunts and singles train, the basics of run-scoring!
8:49
Comment From Casey
I met Carrot Top once! Sorry, I was feeling left out.
8:49
Comment From Not Matt
From what I remember (and this is 25+ years ago) I got a single off him (and then was picked off)
8:49
Jeff Zimmerman: I need to find a radio, Buck is killing me, the radio team is much better.
8:50
Jeff Zimmerman: Glove sighting, drink.
8:50
Comment From Realidad
Is Kelly actually this good?
8:50
Matt Klaassen: No.
8:51
Comment From Ruki
Buck killing Jeff is not figurative. If you listen closely to the announcers, you can hear his dying screams in the background.
8:51
Comment From Mr. Wrestling IV
Is the gun reading fast?
8:52
Jeff Zimmerman: if it is, Peavy is way down.
8:52
Comment From Scruffy, the janitor
I have more faith in Peavy getting a hit in this game than Drew getting one
8:53
Comment From Brett
Stephen Drew: good at baseball, just not now
8:56
Comment From Ruki
I wonder if the announcers will accidentally call him J.D. again today.
8:56
Comment From Ruki
Obviously the gun is like a hot-cold patch. Goes hot for one team, cold for the other.
8:56
Comment From Bat pitcher 8th
Both pitchers are better hitters than both shortstops
8:58
Comment From Ruki
Eventually, it will trend up to 120 MPH or so.
8:58
Jeff Zimmerman: Of course.
8:58
Comment From Mr. Wrestling IV
It would help prepare us for Buchholz tomorrow.
8:59
Comment From Hank
“It may sound simplistic” (this kind of summarizes most of what McCarver says)
8:59
Comment From Guest
How does Kelly consistently outperform his talent?
9:00
Jeff Zimmerman: Nice Circus
9:00
Comment From Scruffy, the janitor
*circus music
9:00
Comment From Brad Johnson
that was fun
9:00
Comment From Ruki
That was a comedy of errors.
9:00
Matt Klaassen: He’s been good, but he’s only got a little over one season (230 IP) total in the majors — let’s wait before he label him an “overperformer.”
9:00
Comment From filihok
Hate these interviews. Exciting play going on. 0 mention
9:01
Comment From Guest
glad we had that interview instead of play by play of that
9:01
Comment From paul
Holliday can’t hustle in the World Series?
9:01
Comment From Guest
Do Buck and McCarver even know that just happeneD?
9:01
Comment From Scruffy, the janitor
Good thing we have this enlightening conversation with David Ross
9:01
Comment From Hank
Oh hey baseball is happening… let’s talk to Rossinstead about beards
9:01
Comment From Lyle
This WS will be remembered for all the errors.
9:01
Comment From Justin
The cardinal way
9:02
Comment From Mike Y.
“It’s really not good baserunning by holiday.” Can’t get anything by you, Tim.
9:02
Comment From cd
Worst coverage ever.
9:02
Comment From Casey
If Yasiel Puig just showed that lack of hustle Joe Buck would have kittens in the booth.
9:02
Comment From Frank
World Series + Errors = Tigers pitchers in 06
9:03
Comment From Guest
Did anyone notice the bird taking a face plant in that replay
9:03
Jeff Zimmerman: Yes.
9:03
Comment From Monty
People acutally complaining that McCarver and Buck weren’t talking. What is the world coming to?
9:03
Comment From cd
Are you saying Joe Buck is anti-Cuban or pro-Castro?
9:03
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Matt Holliday not hustling so much it looks like he’s literally motionless
9:03
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Puig would have circled the bases on that play
9:04
Comment From Lyle
Holiday is an old vet not some young punk Buck can allow it.
9:04
Matt Klaassen: Love that they go right back to the well with MORE PLAYER INTERVIEWS.
9:04
Jeff Zimmerman: I am calling a HR during the interview.
9:05
Comment From Guest
also, holliday is white… so its still “the right way”
9:06
Comment From paul
Cardinals good karma may be gone with that Holliday play
9:06
Comment From Mike Y.
And the “battle” begins between Ellsbury and Molina.
9:06
Comment From Lyle
Is Ellsbury ever going to test Molina and go for a steal?
9:07
Jeff Zimmerman: No real reason to push it with 3 outs give. Can’t lose the runner IMO.
9:07
Comment From Guest
How much money would it take to fly Vin Scully from LA to St. Louis by tomorrow and take over for Buck and McCarver for the rest of the series?
9:08
Matt Klaassen: WHAT ABOUT REX HUDLER??????
9:08
Matt Klaassen: BBQ CHIPS
9:08
Comment From Mr. Wrestling IV
What about the reanimated corpse of Gordon Solie?
9:08
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Buck Martinez! Replace Joe Buck with a worse Buck.
9:09
Comment From Taco
Red Sox getting beat by a pitcher with two first names and glasses.
9:09
Comment From josh
relax guys. joe is the best is the biz and isnt going anywhere
9:09
Matt Klaassen: He’s pitching well so far but let’s not go nuts.
9:10
Comment From Guest
Jon Jay appears to be playing CF a lot better this series than last.
9:10
Matt Klaassen: How dare you. Defense doesn’t slump, ya know.
9:11
Comment From Brian
its a mirage, jay never plays a good CF
9:13
Jeff Zimmerman: That must be as much of a pitch a pitch around with 1B open. MY BRAIN
9:13
Comment From cd
The non-intentional intentional walk.
9:13
Jeff Zimmerman: I will have an article on it Monday for Rotographs, Oritz is the king of it.
9:14
Comment From Tom
I don’t like that walk. Ellsbury will score from second on a base hit
9:14
Comment From Evan
Jay looked like a drunken sailor against the Dodgers. How could he not look better?
9:14
Matt Klaassen: “Joe Kelly” is even more of a 1920s baseball name than ” Scott Baker.”
9:15
Comment From Brian
i just pictured mccarver as mugato from zoolander “ortiz is so hot right now”
9:16
Comment From Frank
That was way outside…
9:16
Jeff Zimmerman: yes it was.
9:17
Comment From Mr. Wrestling IV
Unless he had a nickname. Like “Coke Bottle” Joe Kelly. Because his glasses are made from the bottom of Coke bottles. Or something.
9:17
Comment From Hank
Ortiz scoring on a long single? McCarver is on fire tonight!
9:17
Comment From Ruki
Also, “Coke Bottle” Jim Kelly actually sounds really cool.
9:19
Comment From Ruki
I wonder what Scott Baker’s nickname would be. Scott “Bread” Baker, because in the 1920s his dad was a bread maker or something?
9:20
Comment From Frank
I actually heard McCarver say that the ball gets slippery when it is raining once.
9:21
Comment From Scruffy, the janitor
“the team that scores the most runs often wins the game” – Tim McCarver
9:21
Comment From Boomer Bust
“Home Run” appropriate but already taken
9:21
Comment From cd
Joe Kelly and Scott Baker are more like 1950s baseball names, when eveyone was white and lived in the suburbs. Honus Wagner, Ty Cobb, those are 1920s names, regardless of what years those guys actually played. I don’t remember, I wasn’t there.
9:21
Jeff Zimmerman: Peavy was shaking his arm on that pitch. He may not be right.
9:22
Comment From Jake Peavy
So I should throw from the windup with runners on Tim? Or maybe I should try getting the leadoff out? Like maybe inducing a shallow popup?
9:22
Comment From Scruffy, the janitor
Has there ever been another human named Honus?
9:23
Comment From Guest
Just got here. Is this the Missouri-South Carolina Live Blog? Great first half.
9:23
Comment From Mr. Wrestling IV
It has to be Joe Kelly. Scott wasn’t one of the top 200 male baby names in either the 1890s or 1900s. Joseph was 6th and 7th, respectively.
9:23
Comment From Hams
Honus is like the nickname for Johannes, so yes.
9:23
Matt Klaassen: Do you think Joe Kelly rides around town on one of those hold-timey bikes with a huge front wheel?
9:24
Comment From Guest
Johannes Wagner does have a nice right to it
9:24
Jeff Zimmerman: “why bunt” is this the same broadcast crew.
9:26
Comment From Guest
Tim McCarver is a genius
9:26
Matt Klaassen: I think my TV broke from the sonic booms from that shot of Molina running.
9:26
Comment From Lyle
Those old timey bikes are called velocipedes.
9:26
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Every time I try to think of an old timey baseball name I always end up with a disease for the first name. Like Rheumatism Jones.
9:27
Comment From Lyle
They also had the nickname of boneshaker because of how the person felt while riding over any sort of bump.
9:27
Comment From MS Dhoni
phil hartman could probably do a great tim mccarver
9:28
Matt Klaassen: if Pedroia was a Cardinal it would be the Most Annoying Thing Ever.
9:28
Comment From Hank
How do you not run on Elsbury’s noodle arm? Especially with the pitcher up (twice)
9:28
Jeff Zimmerman: No idea.
9:29
Comment From Brian
it was yadi on third, noodle arm vs thunder thighs
9:30
Comment From Hank
Ortiz acting like he was going to catch that was pure comedy gold.
9:30
Comment From Ruki
There’s a baseball game to be played in Australia?
9:30
Matt Klaassen: Justin Huber, baby.
9:30
Comment From Scruffy, the janitor
Workman vs Carpenter would be the msot blue-collar match up ever
9:31
Matt Klaassen: Wow, the Cards are missing a lot of opportunities. #banalysis
9:31
Comment From Nippon
Finally Peavy realizes the cards aren’t swinging at any first pitches
9:31
Comment From Guest
POPOPOPOPUPUPUPUP
9:31
Comment From someone
HOUDINI!
9:32
Comment From Ryan
I hope Cards pitchers were taking notes on catching those pop ups
9:32
Jeff Zimmerman: Time for weird local commercials.
9:33
Comment From Guest
Hope Ellsbury was too
9:33
Matt Klaassen: but yeah, 20/20 hindsight, blah blah blah but the Cards really should have used Craig there
9:35
Jeff Zimmerman: I am pretty sure Peavy gets pulled now.
9:35
Matt Klaassen: and it begins
9:35
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
That was pretty cool
9:35
Comment From filihok
How, exactly, does momentum smell?
9:36
Comment From Brad Johnson
A little like brimstone I imagine…
9:36
Comment From Brett
Like Steve Bartman
9:36
Comment From Frank
Moises Alou’s hands
9:37
Comment From Evan
Matheny won’t get anyone up here because Kelly has a chance to get a win.
9:38
Jeff Zimmerman: This is true.
9:38
Comment From gump
cue the slow hook twitter posts by the entire fangraphs staff
9:39
Comment From cd
Drew was just handed “Wonder Boy”.
9:39
Comment From Justin
Come on Drew, one time in your life
9:39
Matt Klaassen: Everyone is following MGL on Twitter, right? https://twitter.com/mitchellichtman
9:40
Comment From Gila Monster
I can’t tell if the ump is bad or if Yaider Molina is that good at pitch framing.
9:41
Jeff Zimmerman: A little of both tonight, even Salty has “framed” a few strikes.
9:42
Comment From Scruffy, the janitor
If Stephen Drew keeps this up he will be more hated than JD in Boston.
9:42
Comment From Scruffy, the janitor
At least JD had that grand slam
9:43
Comment From Joe Kellys Goggles
And more loved in STL than JD
9:44
Comment From Tim Drew
At least people know how JD and Stephen Drew are.
9:44
Comment From cd
And Nancy Drew.
9:45
Jeff Zimmerman: “A double play is a hard play to set up a pitcher” – No $hit
9:45
Comment From Lyle
Should Victorino still be batting second?
9:46
Matt Klaassen: If you think he’s been good enough during the regular season to do so, then no reason to change based on a small playoff sample.
9:46
Comment From Frank
This umpire is terrible.
9:46
Matt Klaassen: I would say he shouldn’t be hitting that high vs. RHP given his platoon split, though. And that goes for the regular season, too.
9:49
Matt Klaassen: Great shot of Jason Motte there.
9:49
Comment From Robo
how much do we know about victorino’s split vs righties as a righty though?
9:49
Jeff Zimmerman: It’s the Jason Motte show.
9:50
Matt Klaassen: Not much, but if we assume he’s just an average righty, given his overall true talent then we should assume he has an average split, which means he’s still probably below-average vs. RHP in terms of true talent. Just his observed performance this year is a virtually meaningless sample.
9:51
Matt Klaassen: So here’s a fun Canadian commercial: The Keg is a Canadian chain steakhouse. Every time we go it’s mostly families and older people. the commercials they’ve been showing lately make it look like Hot Young Hookup Central.
9:52
Comment From Brad Johnson
I talked about that a week ago – http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-grand-slam-that-almost-wasnt/. In short, he has better power and much worse plate discipline than when he bats lefty. We can’t be confident on the specifics of course.
9:52
Comment From filihok
Well, the 4:30PM demographic might be different than the 8 PM one
9:53
Comment From cd
As to Jason Motte, the plethora of truly bad beards in either clubhouse makes me appreciate the Yankees’ player grooming policy, and I don’t want to ever appreciate Yankees anything.
9:54
Comment From Florko
I wish we were watching A’s vs Pirates
9:55
Jeff Zimmerman: Don’t most of us.
9:56
Matt Klaassen: Dodgers-Tigers would have had an awesome Greinke-Brayan pena reunion, at least.
9:56
Matt Klaassen: Although Michael Young and Toriiii Hunter mostly would have canceled that out.
9:56
Comment From Jonathan
BA of batters vs Kelly 3rd time through?
9:57
Jeff Zimmerman: Looks like a 50 point jump in OPS
9:57
Comment From Brad Johnson
Yes, that’s why Adams stayed at second – he didn’t want to take a chance..
9:57
Comment From Mike
Should have had all 9 guys playing on the right side
9:58
Jeff Zimmerman: Adams is ridiculous on his pull numbers.
9:58
Comment From Brian
time for freese to earn his check for next year
9:59
Comment From Boomer Bust
Not to mention this year
9:59
Matt Klaassen: I’m not in love with that IBB.
10:00
Comment From Joe Kellys Goggles
In MLB history, has there ever been a situation with two slower runners on at the same time?
10:01
Jeff Zimmerman: This ump is all over the place.
10:01
Matt Klaassen: Steamer projects Molina for a .347 wOBA, Freese for .343. Freese has the bigger platoon split. Playing with fire a bit, although odds are that it will “work.”
10:01
Comment From Brett
Is there any IBB you’re actually in love with? Or just infatuated with?
10:01
Matt Klaassen: Had a crush on one in high school, but it went off with a guy a hated. Haven’t been able to love since then.
10:01
Comment From Scruffy, the janitor
Aren’t the odds always in favor of the batter making an out?
10:02
Matt Klaassen: Yes, that was my point. Doesn’t validate the decision.
10:02
Jeff Zimmerman: Freese with his back injury puts his projected down about OPS down 100 points.
10:02
Jeff Zimmerman: Freese is worse by a long way.
10:02
Comment From someone
The Book says you break even with a wOBA ratio of 1.27
10:03
Matt Klaassen: Yeah and it isn’t close to that once you take platoon stuff into consideration. What Jeff is saying about the back injury makes it closer, I suppose, but probably doesn’t make it an obvious walk.
10:03
Comment From Sirras One
I’m sorry, I’m a bit lost. Could you explain the “The Book says you break even with a wOBA ratio of 1.27″ comment please?
10:04
Matt Klaassen: A lot of complicated stuff. There’s a chapter in “The Book” (www.insidethebook.com) on when to IBB based on projected wOBA of a batter and those after him, score, base/out/score situation, and then what ratio of wOBA the battter in question has over the batter(s) behind him in order for the IBB to be a good idea.
10:06
Comment From paul
Seems like the Cardinals should have more than a 2-1 lead. Lost their Mojo after the Holliday gaffe.
10:07
Comment From Evan
Victorino usually figures out how to let that hit him.
10:07
Comment From Sirras One
Thank you Matt!
10:09
Matt Klaassen: Yes, Jeff, Kelly looks almost as much like Bradley Woodrum as Eric Sogard looks like Carson Cistulli.
10:10
Jeff Zimmerman: Nice.
10:11
Jeff Zimmerman: And I am done for the night, MGL agree with me on Freese’s injury.
10:11
Matt Klaassen: Oh sure, Jeff follows MGL on Twitter but not me.
10:12
Jeff Zimmerman: I am just following him tonight.
10:12
Jeff Zimmerman: I don’t follow many people at all, but I am following MGL tonight.
10:13
Comment From Guest
If a pitch bounces into the strike zone, is it a strike?
10:14
Comment From Brad Johnson
Only if Vlad Guerrero is batting.
10:14
Comment From Brad Johnson
yikes, I thought I was “anti-social” following only 322.
10:15
Matt Klaassen: Maybe “Cover It Live” classic will work better for me.
10:15
Comment From Brian
hoping to see a home plate collision with adams
10:15
Jeff Zimmerman: I followed a ton for while and it was just a huge time sink. I backed way down on the number.
10:16
Comment From Lyle
This ump needs glasses
10:16
Matt Klaassen: Lyle wins tonight for originality.
10:17
Comment From Sirras One
He can borrow Joe Kelly’s!
10:17
Comment From I Am The Walrus
I told you Ortiz owned lefties in clutch situations.
10:18
Comment From Mr. Wrestling IV
Maness’ GB% is insane.
10:19
Jeff Zimmerman: 68.4%
10:19
Comment From Sirras One
Looks like Matheny is speeding up his hook tonight
10:19
Comment From John
“Matheny should’ve left in Joe Kelly” – Captain Hindsight
10:20
Comment From Pre
Should Boston pinch run for Ortiz here and then bring in Napoli?
10:21
Jeff Zimmerman: I would save Napoli’s bat, it will be more important later than trying to score from 1B
10:21
Comment From I Am The Walrus
Why? Ortiz hasn’t committed an error in his career in World Series games. You don’t want to take his glove out of the game.
10:22
Matt Klaassen: Is it time to bust out the chocolate truffle cake?
10:22
Comment From RageAgainstTheNarrative
Literally the first pitch all night that ended with the Sox > 50% WP
10:22
Matt Klaassen: Guess that should have been a poll question.
10:23
Comment From Mr. Wrestling IV
That sounds amazing. Why has it taken you this long to eat it?
10:23
Comment From cd
Yes!
10:25
Comment From gump
bit harsh
10:25
Comment From Mr. Wrestling IV
I thought that tweet was going to be about cake. Now I’m sad.
10:25
Matt Klaassen: Not endorsing that tweet. Just thought this place needed to be MGL’d a bit.
10:26
Comment From cd
Could the significance of the cake be explained to me in a loving and nonthreatening way? Thanks.
10:26
Matt Klaassen: I’m hungry and it is delicious.
10:28
Comment From AJT
I don’t get cake?
10:28
Jeff Zimmerman: I didn’t get any either.
10:28
Matt Klaassen: Yes, Jake Peavy was so great in the fourth inning in which he pitched out of situations that just randomly happened.
10:29
Matt Klaassen: Another shot of the first time a second baseman ever caught a line drive.
10:29
Jeff Zimmerman: what was with the tennis shot.
10:29
Comment From Brian
they are taking about that play like it was a difficult play
10:30
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Tim McCarver talking about tennis is just what
10:30
Comment From some random guy
why, just why
10:30
Comment From Guest
If anyone would be amused by that, it’s Tim McCarver
10:31
Matt Klaassen: That was almost as incredible as the time Pedroia was the first player ever to just have a would-be home run ball go foul. The hall has already requested the bat and ball from that play.
10:31
Comment From Matt
GUYZ DID U NO BASEBALL AND TENNIS ARE BOTH SPORTS THAT REQUIRE ATHLETICISM??
10:31
Comment From Guest
Next inning: Roger Federer joins Tim McCarver in the booth to call the 7th inning!
10:31
Comment From Jeff
mccarver for president
10:31
Comment From Sirras One
But guys, they both hop!
10:31
Comment From Nick
Federer doesn’t hop. Argument over.
10:31
Comment From Guest
McCarver is just a bad a tennis commentator
10:31
Comment From Brad Johnson
In all seriousness, can you imagine being in the broadcast booth and getting sent that comparison – knowing you have to ramble about it for at least 30 seconds…bad spot to be in.
10:32
Matt Klaassen: Pat Summerall would have handled it with a bong, uh, I mean aplomb.
10:32
Comment From Guest
Are you going to show us a picture of that cake, or what?
10:32
Matt Klaassen: can’t believe I’m gonna do this
10:33
Comment From Gila Monster
IS there a live chat tomorrow?
10:33
Matt Klaassen: will take a while, I gotta ge tout of this chair
10:33
Jeff Zimmerman: Yes and you may get some real commentary.
10:34
Comment From Brad Johnson
We’re beginning to think the “cake” is like the “girlfriend from canada.”
10:34
Comment From 2007
The cake is a lie
10:34
Matt Klaassen: A response to MGL’s earlier tweet: https://twitter.com/DarrenSechrist/status/394289270350815232
10:34
Comment From Mr. Wrestling IV
I hope it’s not Dave chatting tomorrow. All he ever wants to talk about is baseball.
10:35
Comment From Lyle
Real commentary is dull. Tonight has been loads of fun. It’s kinda like a gag reel chat.
10:35
Comment From Pre
I think the fact that FOX thinks a 2-2 game in the World Series tied 1-1 needs spicing up with things like tennis comparisons is a perfect distillation of how clueless they are
10:36
Comment From Shark Mapiro
You need the fun commentary to cover the 30 minutes in between Red Sox pitches.
10:36
Comment From Gila Monster
PRAISE THE GODS. STEPHEN DREW IS GONE
10:37
Jeff Zimmerman: beer run
10:37
Comment From Ruki
Time for another half hour of patriotic songs.
10:40
Jeff Zimmerman: All I going to pissed if they f-up Ender’s Game, I loved the book
10:41
Comment From Tony M
Well, the author visited the set and said the movie didn’t even resemble the book, so…
10:41
Comment From Brad Johnson
That seems like a hard movie to pull off. Actual kids aren’t nearly as interesting as Ender and friends
10:41
Comment From Sirras One
Jeff: YES! I’m excited because I’ve always thought it’d be a good movie (and I think the casting is great), but if they screw it up there will be hell to pay
10:42
:
10:42
Comment From Lyle
I agree with you Jeff, the Ender’s Game is a classic. I just wish Orson Scott Card was sane. His insanity makes me hate his work just a little bit.
10:42
Matt Klaassen: Kinda mangled it, and the phone cam isn’t great, but there it is, you bunch of babies.
10:42
Comment From Matt
Dear God…
10:42
Comment From RageAgainstTheNarrative
Wow so the cake really is the truth after all.
10:42
Comment From Guest
That cake is prettier than a hop by Rafi Nadal
10:45
Comment From Brad Johnson
Just received word from Dave Cameron, I’ll be part of tomorrow’s chat crew with Wendy. Assuming I figure out how to log in. Advance warning…I don’t have any cake.
10:45
Comment From Sirras One
They hit Beltran because they were afraid he’d hit a homer #PraiseBeltran
10:45
Comment From MS Dhoni
you gonna finish that?
10:47
Comment From Brian
did mccarver really just bring up the fictional attempt to get out of the way rule
10:47
Jeff Zimmerman: He may have, craziness.
10:47
Comment From cd
So getting knicked by a ball is when it comes super close but doesn’t touch you? Interesting.
10:48
Matt Klaassen: David Ortiz chatting it up with with a player who is far superior to him in both regular and postseason career numbers.
10:49
Matt Klaassen: I know I’ve said this a number of ways, but Matt Holliday has been one of the more underrated players in baseball for years.
10:49
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
Can’t wait to see Boston fans complaining about Beltran even though Victorino does the same thing all the damn time.
10:50
Comment From Brad Johnson
In Play (runs)
10:51
Comment From Sirras One
Beltran selfishly padding his postseason run count #BlameBeltran
10:51
Jeff Zimmerman: Who was that jumping up and down like a girl in the Cards dugout?
10:51
Comment From Guest
Not very clutch
10:52
Matt Klaassen: Hopefully Chris Carpenter.
10:53
Comment From some random guy
middlebrooks completely botched that
10:53
Comment From Sirras One
Does Xander make that play if he’s at 3rd instead of Middlebrooks?
10:53
Jeff Zimmerman: Possibly, Middlebrooks looked slow to react.
10:55
Comment From Robo
As an Orioles fan I got Mark Reynolds flashbacks from watching that replay… Slow feet
10:55
Comment From Brad Johnson
I think it was more an issue of positioning. Probably should have been a bit closer to the line.
10:55
Matt Klaassen: I think that’s a tough play for most third basemen, but I defer to other more knowledgeable people.
10:55
Jeff Zimmerman: I don’t think no doubles should be in effect, a player wants to stop any hit with a runner at 2B
10:56
Comment From RetireNutting
It was Chris Carpenter (jumping up and down like a toddler). Middlebrooks shoulda gotten to that. New Bill Buckner?
10:56
Jeff Zimmerman: Thanks.
10:58
Comment From Brian
that still would’ve been a good play if it was made, no where near buckner level
10:58
Comment From cd
Middlebrooks wasn’t charged with an error. No, not a new Bill Buckner.
10:58
Comment From Brad Johnson
Missing a dive is hardly similar to a ball through the wickets.
10:59
Comment From RetireNutting
haha, sorry — right. not Buckner. too exaggerated on my part.
11:00
Jeff Zimmerman: You’re forgiven. I didn’t even really care about that part. I wanted to know who the little girl was in the dugout.
11:00
Matt Klaassen: Wow, what happened to Breslow’s K rate this year? I guess his velocity decline probably plays a big part in it…
11:00
Comment From Tim
The Matt Holliday contract is starting to look like one of the best contracts of its length of all time, right? If not the best?
11:01
Comment From Brian
i’d be jumping around like a little girl if i was in that dugout too
11:01
Comment From Sirras One
Just saying, little boys do that too…
11:02
Matt Klaassen: Let’s not go nuts on the Holliday contract. The end will probably not be great, but that’s par for the course. I did discuss how it was smart in view of the Cards’ longer-term plans. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/holliday-and-the-cardinals-post-pujols-plan/
11:03
Comment From cd
All the Red Sox need at this point is two runs. This comment will not be published, unless it is.
11:03
Comment From Brett
Speaking of jumping in the dugout: http://i.imgflip.com/3h1xk.gif
11:03
Comment From Brian
my biggest problem with the holliday contract is that they seemingly bid against themselves
11:04
Comment From Brian
cd is tim mccarver!
11:04
Comment From Frank
Remember Holliday on the A’s?
11:05
Matt Klaassen: Remember what they gave up to get him for one season…. but hey, at least they turned him into Brett Wallace, who turned into Michael Taylor.
11:05
Comment From cd
A bit off topic: Do you think the Lincecum contract was more a reaction to what the Dodgers have done with signings in the last year than what Tim is actually worth?
11:07
Jeff Zimmerman: Timmah contract will be on par IMO. Teams seem to over pay for IP instead of RA/FIP
11:07
Comment From Tim
Not really. Sabean has done this time and time again and overvalued a player due to him being familiar with how they play. Aubrey Huff is waving as we speak.
11:07
Comment From Brad Johnson
I think it’s probably just an indication that A) there’s a lot of money in baseball right now B) Not that many pitchers with his upside/mean expectation and C) few players as marketable in San Fran
11:07
Matt Klaassen: so you think wins are going to go for about $9 million this off-season, Jeff?
11:08
Matt Klaassen: People who criticize the Lincecum contract aren’t remembering all the extra money The Frenchy Quarter pulled in for the Royals.
11:08
11:09
Comment From Nick
If the Red Sox only get two runs the rest of the game, they will lose.
11:09
Comment From Brad Johnson
Remember who the A’s traded for Holliday?
11:10
Matt Klaassen: Yeah, but all the marketing they were going to do around Holliday! #homerbasedanalysis
11:11
Comment From Sirras One
Tim McCarver just keeps talking…
11:11
Jeff Zimmerman: Did he stop?
11:12
Comment From Sirras One
Not yet
11:12
Comment From Frank
Why is Tim this stupid? He was commentating when Gossage and the like were around, not so specialised in the relief corps
11:14
Comment From Anton
This is why Victorino should be batting at the bottom of the order. Your 2 hitter needs to be productive. You don’t want Victorino coming up in these situations
11:14
Comment From lowercase jeff
a Victorino HBP that ACTUALLY would have hit any other batter
11:14
Jeff Zimmerman: #cantpredictbase
11:15
Comment From Carlos Danger
What? A HBP isn’t productive?
11:16
Matt Klaassen: Just thought that comment was funny to publish right after Victorino got on base. Not really fair of me since it was submitted before the HBP. Entertaining, though.
11:16
Comment From Mikey
Does WAR account for HBPs? It doesn’t because wOBA doesn’t, right? Good grief.
11:17
Matt Klaassen: wOBA incorporates HBPs.
11:17
Matt Klaassen: thus WAR does, too.
11:18
Comment From Mikey
Ah, so it does. With a higher weight than BBs, too, according to wikipedia. I stand corrected.
11:18
Comment From Robo
lots of backup sliders
11:18
Comment From Brad Johnson
frisbees
11:19
Comment From some random guy
IBB?
11:19
Matt Klaassen: Just barely higher. On average (at least for the era in which the wOBA weights are derived), HBPs take place in situations in which the “free base” alters run expectancy just a bit more.
11:19
Comment From Tim
You’d hope there’s no IBB
11:19
Comment From Tim
Aaaaannnnnndddd I stand corrected.
11:19
Comment From Sirras One
I don’t know that I like this iBB…(mostly because I don’t like iBB in general)
11:22
Matt Klaassen: Rosenthal actually better vs. lefties (observed) than righties: .245 wOBA career vs LHH .282 wOBA vs RHP
11:23
Comment From Ruki
Proof Joe Kelly is the more 1920s name, BTW: There were actually 2 baseball players in the 1920s named Joe Kelly according to Wikipedia, no Scott Bakers.
11:23
Comment From Pre
Deja vu. Pinch run for Ortiz?
11:24
Jeff Zimmerman: Still no with, I would save napoli’s at bat.
11:24
Matt Klaassen: Of course, the math for pitcher platoon splits is much more complicated than for batters, and though it requires fewer PA, Rosenthal still has a small sample.
11:25
Comment From Brian
that was a heck of a play
11:25
Comment From Scruffy, the janitor
that was a nice play.
11:25
Comment From Frank
Ummmmm horrible footwork by Wong there.
11:26
Comment From AJT
YEEEES
11:26
Comment From Ruki
Tiedgame!
11:27
Comment From Brian
kozma will win the WS with a HR, calling goat to hero storyline
11:27
Comment From RetireNutting
Kozma-colypse!
11:27
Comment From Tony M
If the Red Sox win the WS, they should make Kozma the MVP.
11:27
Comment From Sgt. Pepper
That was a damn impossible play but lets make fun of Kozma anyway
11:28
Matt Klaassen: Can’t wait for McCarver to say the equivalent of: “The Cardinals can still regain the lead if they score.”
11:31
Comment From Ruki
Or maybe “The Red Sox will win if they have a shutdown inning here.”
11:31
Comment From Sirras One
Matt, is it a sip or a shot if he says that?
11:31
Comment From Matt
This might be a late night, fellas.
11:31
Matt Klaassen: A piece of cake, or, “caek.”
11:32
Matt Klaassen: Love that they’re raving about Peavy’s fourth inning in which he just about let the game get blown open then lucked out.
11:32
Comment From Sirras One
Matt, FOX doesn’t believe in FIP. Pitcher is fully responsible for everything. Duh.
11:33
Comment From Brian
so with the double switch the cards might not even get to PH craig
11:33
Matt Klaassen: Really surprised that Alcides Escobar is playing shortstop for the Cardinals, you all.
11:34
Comment From Frank
Why dont Fox advertise their actually good lineup of comedies
11:35
Comment From Pre
did he just call him Golden Wong?
11:35
Comment From RetireNutting
“teeming with team players”: #Vomit
11:35
Comment From Brad Johnson
“teeming with team players” yuck yuck yuck
11:35
Comment From Ruki
Let ‘er rip!
11:35
Matt Klaassen: beyblade fan?
11:35
Comment From Frank
Pedroia didn’t jump before that play. No hop = No play
11:37
Comment From Brian
probably a mistake to throw over to papi too many times
11:39
Comment From Guest
Nadal would’ve scored had there been a hop on that one
11:39
Comment From Brad Johnson
Tim – once again – is wrong. A RHB still doesn’t really see that unless it’s a called steal.
11:39
Comment From Robo
Was the workman-carpenter matchup blue collar enough for the earlier commenter?
11:40
Comment From Mr. Wrestling IV
No, Styx’s Blue Collar Man should have been playing in the background
11:41
Matt Klaassen: Holliday is just a homer and a triple short of the cycle, ya’ll.
11:41
Comment From Ruki
New poll: Should Blue Collar Man be Workman’s walk up theme?
11:41
Comment From Guest
Wher is Koji



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