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  1. two points:

    1) Matt Kemp and Ryan Braun are awesome? Amazing! :p

    2) why oh why oh why do you continue to stick with this bizarre AL/NL split for OF??? The vast majority of leagues are mixed, and it’s not like you are doing AL and NL shortstops in separate articles? Why oh why, Eno?

    Comment by batpig — October 17, 2011 @ 3:31 pm

  2. yea mixed league is the future

    Comment by st — October 17, 2011 @ 3:33 pm

  3. Hey! I was critical of both of these players and you have to have a first tier in any case.

    And for the second, I’ve explained it many times. We will produce mixed league lists, but OF and SP are too much for one person to handle when it comes to in-season work — the in-season rankings would be too much work for one person, and there is no more natural way to split up the work load than by leagues.

    It’s a procedural argument, but if we’re writing up each dude so you can make you own informed decisions about them, and we’re providing mixed league rankings eventually, I don’t really see the problem.

    Comment by Eno Sarris — October 17, 2011 @ 3:38 pm

  4. and the present :-)

    Comment by batpig — October 17, 2011 @ 3:40 pm

  5. If I remember his reasoning is because of the vast depth of talent at OF. If they were combined it wouldn’t do the position justice

    Comment by adohaj — October 17, 2011 @ 3:43 pm

  6. I agree with the post above. Combine both leagues – if someone happens to play in an AL/NL only league, they can ignore the write-ups about the opposite league OFers and go on what’s relevant to them.

    Comment by Matt — October 17, 2011 @ 3:45 pm

  7. I was joking about Kemp/Braun, thus the :p

    anyway, your argument is valid (sort of) for in-season stuff, but this is an offseason tier ranking. You are already breaking it up into tiers, it seems silly to maintain that AL/NL separation.

    it just seems bizarre to me to be having a discussion about the top tier of fantasy outfielders and discuss Braun and Kemp, but NOT also be talking about Ellsbury, Bautista, etc.

    Comment by batpig — October 17, 2011 @ 4:09 pm

  8. Only leagues are more challenging, there should be more of them, in my opinion. Mixed leagues are like having an 8-team fantasy football league. Every team is stacked.

    Comment by Ray — October 17, 2011 @ 4:21 pm

  9. You see, that is an opinion. In my opinion, an ideal league uses 80% of the starters in the pool + some of the better platoony guys. A league that requires owners to pick between various part time options for starting roles isn’t as fun to me.

    Here’s a quick smell test. If Gerardo Parra was owned more than 50% of the season, the league might be too deep. If he was owned less than 10% of the season, it was probably too shallow.

    Comment by Brad Johnson — October 17, 2011 @ 5:07 pm

  10. If you play in an 8-team mixed league then it’s stacked. Or with default roster sizes.

    Most leagues I’ve played in have more than the standard ESPN/Yahoo roster sizes, both bench and starters, and most of those leagues also have more than 10 or 12 people in them, so they are nowhere near stacked. Quite the opposite, in fact.

    Comment by Samuel — October 17, 2011 @ 6:40 pm

  11. 10 or 12 team mixed leagues are nothing compared to 12 team NL-only leagues. In Only leagues, you need to know who the 4th or 5th outfielders are on each team, and decide who is going to get more playing time.
    Just my two cents…..

    Comment by ray — October 17, 2011 @ 9:39 pm

  12. 18 Team Mixed with 25 man roster = 4th and 5th outfielders as well. Eno and Fan/Roto graphs does a great job. The release by league just gives more content to read day by day instead of one big drop on one day and besides unless your drafting next week…….. you’ve got the time to come back and read more later.

    Comment by Ben — October 18, 2011 @ 7:53 am

  13. that’s more like it…..more challenging than a 10-12 team league

    Comment by Ray — October 18, 2011 @ 10:16 am

  14. No Justin Upton?

    Comment by rich101682 — October 18, 2011 @ 3:12 pm

  15. good point! but justifiable… Upton was awesome but in 2011 he was a clear tier below Kemp/Braun.

    with Braun you are getting a virtual lock for .300+/100+/30+/100+ and at least 15-20 steals. Upton has the potential to do that but hasn’t yet, even in his best year (2011) he was well behind Braun.

    And Kemp’s 2011 was so monstrous…. it puts him a notch ahead. Upton is like a half notch back but with the potential to join them…. along with CarGo, McCutch, and Stanton. But I think leaving him out of this tier is fully defensible.

    Comment by batpig — October 18, 2011 @ 5:29 pm

  16. I can’t help but having a feeling that Ichiro wil have a bounce back year in 2012. Your thoughts?

    Comment by Fantasy Fan — November 16, 2011 @ 1:03 pm

  17. maybe in batting average but I think the steals will dwindle going forward.

    Comment by Eno Sarris — November 16, 2011 @ 1:07 pm

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