Comments for "AL Outfield Tiered Rankings Update"


  1. eoin says:
    June 5, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    I feel that you are much too high on Austin Jackson, especially with injury status unclear.

  2. Mark R says:
    June 5, 2012 at 1:46 pm

    Mitch Moreland?

  3. Ogre39666 says:
    June 5, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    Am I missing something or are Justin Upton and Lucas Duda absent?

  4. Jon says:
    June 5, 2012 at 2:23 pm

    AL

  5. Lenard says:
    June 5, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    You’re missing the abbreviation AL from the title.

  6. Skob says:
    June 5, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    Where would you slot Lorenzo Cain if he can come back this month?

  7. Skob says:
    June 5, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    I can’t believe your first misguided thoughts were not involving Ryan Braun or Matt Kemp! Screw them! Where is Duda?

  8. strategy ace says:
    June 5, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    Seth Smith offers very little fantasy wise as an OF. He’s not in the same league as most others in that tier.

  9. saskatunes says:
    June 5, 2012 at 2:57 pm

    I don’t know if I’d say Peter Bourjos (NR) is worse than Ryan Raburn… unless he just got traded to the NL? Please tell me he did.

  10. johnnycuff` says:
    June 5, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    what else would it take to move adam jones into tier 1?

  11. Big Jgke says:
    June 5, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    Isn’t your statement on Brett Gardner a little premature?

  12. Doc7 says:
    June 5, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    Maybe it’s a message from the future

  13. Tyler Groves says:
    June 5, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    Guys, thoughts on this: would you do Prince & Verlander for Sale, Broxton, Brantley and Trumbo in AL-only? Will only have JJ for saves after..

  14. David Wiers says:
    June 5, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    Sorry for just now making it to the comments. Commute + work = not much time in the day left over. Here we go.

  15. Reverend Jim says:
    June 5, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    Andy Dirks? I know he’s on the DL but so are reimold & Ellsbury. Yes he came out of nowhere but he put up good enough numbers to be considered…

  16. David Wiers says:
    June 5, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    That’s the big thing that I worried about. As of that writing, I hadn’t heard anything decidedly too negative, so I took the optimistic approach. This could look very silly in a couple weeks, but that could be said for almost all of these rankings.

  17. Reverend Jim says:
    June 5, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    Oops, I skimmed right by him. Never mind.

  18. Reverend Jim says:
    June 5, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    Oops, I skimmed right by him. Never mind.

  19. David Wiers says:
    June 5, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    Ahh. I used a FG sortable leader board and set a 30 PA minimum. He slipped through the crack, but yes, good point, he is OF eligible in Yahoo!.

    I’d slip him in the bottom of tier four or the upper end of tier five.

  20. David Wiers says:
    June 5, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    Pretty low. ZiPS doesn’t like him much and I’m not crazy about him. He doesn’t offer plus speed or power and the best (realistic) case scenario for his AVG is what, .285?

  21. David Wiers says:
    June 5, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    When he plays he hits fairly well, especially if you happen to be in an OBP league. His RBI/Runs won’t be fantastic because of his teammates, but Smith is still ownable.

  22. David Wiers says:
    June 5, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    I know I have a couple part-timeish guys listed (Smith, Davis) but I just don’t see the plate apperances for Bourjos. Trout obviously has locked down CF. Trumbo is hitting way too well to be benched and Morales has the DH spot nailed down. That leaves RF for Hunter/Wells/Bourjos.

    If Bourjos could get even 4 games a week, he’d be in tier 6 for his steals alone.

  23. David Wiers says:
    June 5, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    A walk rate above 6%?

  24. David Wiers says:
    June 5, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    I am from the future. Buy stock Intel stock.

    I should have clarified that he is doing all of that in the minors on rehab. Edited and includes his stuff today.

  25. David Wiers says:
    June 5, 2012 at 7:42 pm

    I wouldn’t. You’re trading away the two best players in the deal.

  26. David Wiers says:
    June 5, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    Don’t scare me like that. I swore I put Dirks in there!

  27. ccoop says:
    June 5, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    wait, what? the part of the stat line you like least is the walk rate?

  28. David Wiers says:
    June 5, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    Yes. Is there another part of his stat line that I should like even less?

    Maybe I’m misunderstanding your question…

  29. Sean says:
    June 5, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    Does Trout move up into Tier One if he has another month or two like May?

  30. David Wiers says:
    June 5, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    Absolutely. His numbers are crazy high.

    I kind of expect him to come back down to Earth as not even he is capable of a .394 BABIP. But if his true talent BABIP is maybe .340, his end of the season stats will still be impressive.

  31. JeremyR says:
    June 5, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    It’s funny how you dropped Colby Rasmus into Tier 8 just as he’s apparently heating up.

    The guy is streaky.

  32. AA says:
    June 6, 2012 at 12:30 am

    Actually, if Trout and Bourjos are playing at the same time, Bourjos plays CF and Trout a corner.

  33. FlawlessTomLawless says:
    June 6, 2012 at 11:08 am

    I don’t know how Gardner and David Murphy are that high, while Upton, Nelson Cruz and Cespedes are that low…otherwise I think the rankings are fairly accurate.

  34. AL Expert says:
    June 6, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    I think your vastly underrating what Michael Brantley is doing right now. He’s contributing in four categories at above average levels, and will outproduce his Zips ROS RBI projections if he continues to hit in the 5 spot of the lineup.

    I am still scratching my head with Murphy’s placement in tier 4. He is nowhere close to the same class as Upton, Cruz, Choo, etc.

  35. Eric says:
    June 7, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    How is Zobrist a Tier Three OF? He’s having a horrible year

  36. Luke says:
    June 10, 2012 at 11:02 am

    Why isn’t Luke Scott on here? He has OF eligibility in ESPN leagues. Given that, where would you rank him?

  37. Ervin Santana says:
    June 10, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    This seems equally true of De Aza – ZiPS projects him downtrending to just low 700 OPS because of his hugely inflated BABIP. Why so high?

  38. tfboyle says:
    June 12, 2012 at 8:37 am

    De Aza has always had a high BABIP at every level usually in the mid .300′s, so his current .370 BABIP isn’t terribly atypical. I would expect a drop, but nothing dramatic.

  39. radicalhenri says:
    June 12, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    However, this IS fangraphs… the land where duda rules all.

  40. radicalhenri says:
    June 12, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    I don’t understand why cruz is this low.

  41. radicalhenri says:
    June 12, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    wait, wait, wait. This is for the rest of the season right? because if you think jacoby ellsbury will produce worse numbers ROS than daniel nava, you are insane. He’s coming back within a few weeks, and was one of the best players in the game last year. These rankings would make much more sense if they were for what people have produced so far this year. Is that what i’m missing?

  42. David Wiers says:
    June 12, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    It’s an amalgamation of both what they’ve done so far and they figure to do the rest of the way.

  43. Jorge says:
    June 18, 2012 at 1:13 am

    Colby Rasmus is probably just as good if not better than Viciedo and yet you have him ranked four tiers lower.


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