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  1. Would you rather have Moore or Darvish for next year only?

    Comment by Gue Chevara — December 12, 2012 @ 9:34 am

  2. Moore all day, he’s a future cy young award winner.

    The walks are key, After watching most of his starts it appeared as though he was ‘nibbling’ and not going after hitters. Hickey the pitching coach teaches his pitchers to go right after batters, the Rays hate BB’s. I expect a BB/9 around 3.5 next year, which should lead to a 3.3 ERA or so. If he improves that to under 3, then you have a 2.8 or lower ERA guy who should be able to eat up innings. I’m curious where he will go in drafts next year as I would go as high as 55-60 for him, though if I could target him in the 65-70 range I would feel better about the value.

    Comment by Bill — December 12, 2012 @ 10:07 am

  3. I would rather have Wade Davis than either of those two

    Comment by JKB — December 12, 2012 @ 10:15 am

  4. You bring up the record of dominance in the minors…certainly true, but isn’t part of that being at roughly the right age for level? I don’t mention this to put down Moore, but rather to say that it becomes a bit tougher to project his high ceiling comp–Kershaw–especially in 2013, right? When Kershaw was 21 he had already produced a wFB value of 30 in the majors. 30!! Moore’s was a 1/10th of that as a 23 year old.

    This is surely not to say Moore doesn’t have value in 2013 but I think the bulk of it potentially comes from people being excessively down on him. He’s at 85 in the MDC Expert. Given that his 2012 ADP on yahoo was 98, I don’t think we’re going to get *that* much of a discount. In fact, I’d be surprised if he didn’t end up trending closer to the 60s (jumping Darvish, Sale, et al)…where I’d be more inclined to wait for Gio or MBum or jump in for Lee/Hamels a round earlier. We’ll see I guess.

    Comment by jcxy — December 12, 2012 @ 10:55 am

  5. you have Clayton Kershaw’s career trajectory with maybe a couple more fly balls. Now that the hype has died down.

    I gotta ask — what made you put those two sentences together?

    Comment by jfree — December 12, 2012 @ 11:02 am

  6. Agreed. Matt tries to work the corners a little more than a pitcher with his explosive fastball should. A perfect example of what happens without fb command is Ricky Romero. Essentially it works to grade down other pitches, even secondary stuff as good as Matt’s. While he wasn’t Romero bad, watching the two pitch last year was eerily comparable at times with Matt benefiting more because of his better overall arsenal.

    I too see Moore really turning a corner this year as on a start to start basis his past failures can be tied back to the aforementioned challenge. Assuming the expected improvement in BB/9, and even a small improvement on FP-strike%, a rise into David Price territory by the end of the 2013 campaign seems entirely possible.

    Comment by Ben — December 12, 2012 @ 10:15 pm

  7. LOL

    Comment by Dave — January 24, 2013 @ 5:41 pm

  8. In expert drafts he goes well after all of those guys (and Darvish)… usually around round 7 in 15-team leagues… and I’d say that’s right where he should be

    Comment by Dave — January 24, 2013 @ 5:43 pm

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