AL OF Tiered Rankings Update

Today brings the new monthly tiers and subsequent rankings of the American League outfield. As always, I’m basing this off of Yahoo! standard format eligibility. This list is how I value each player going forward, with consideration to what they’ve done so far.

Tier One:
Jose Bautista
Curtis Granderson
Mike Trout

Trout finally made the jump to the top tier. The only thing that keeps him from surpassing Granderson is that I weigh Granderson’s power and RBI opportunities going forward more heavily than Trout’s average and stolen bases. If you swap them, I wouldn’t sue. Bautista, .239 AVG and all, is still the top dog.

Tier Two:
Adam Jones
Josh Hamilton
Austin Jackson
Josh Willingham
Adrian Gonzalez

Again, not too much to really take note of at this point. Willingham takes a small step forward because he still hasn’t cooled off. Over the past month, he has hit .339 and drove in 20, tying him for fifth in RBI’s in the AL OF over for June. Eventually, all this (increasingly seemingly blind) faith in A-Gon will pay off.

Tier Three:
Adam Dunn
Mark Trumbo
Josh Reddick
Alejandro De Aza

Dunn makes his debut in the AL OF rankings. Much ink has been used on Dunn’s excellent bounce-back season, so I’ll try not to wax poetic on him too long. I will just note that for those of you starting Dunn in daily formats, I’d sit him against just about any left-handed pitcher worth his salt. This year Dunn is hitting .165/.294/.418 against fellow lefties. Fortunately he has logged more than twice as many PA’s against righties, but in any close late-game scenario, expect Dunn to be sat down rather quietly by a fellow left-hander. De Aza is another guy who got off to a great start and hasn’t looked back. Over his past seven days, he’s hitting .303 and a single homer. His seasonal average is down to .294, but his walk rate is still above average. The only glaring issue is that his SB/CS ratio is ugly. He has 14 bags to his name, but he’s been caught stealing seven times already. It shouldn’t surprise you that over the past 30 days, De Aza has all of two stolen bases. I don’t think he’ll get the green light very often anymore, so hopefully he’ll keep hitting.

Tier Four:
Nelson Cruz
Nick Swisher
Ben Zobrist
Shin-Soo Choo
Alex Rios
Jacoby Ellsbury
Desmond Jennings

Here is where the plot really thickens. I’m still not especially fond of Nelson Cruz, but as far as fantasy value goes, he scores big in the right categories. He still doesn’t have much AVG to offer, but his home runs, RBI’s and runs are more than enough to keep him in the front of fantasy GM’s minds. ZiPS likes Swisher’s RoS wOBA to be a very solid .354, and while a lot of that value is tied to his predicted 12.5% walk rate, his power is still legitimate and he could finish the season with 25 HR and 100 RBI’s. Choo has smacked a trio of homers in the past week and has gotten his average up to .287 on the year. He still has an outside shot of a 20-20 season with a .280 AVG. Not too bad for a fourth tier outfielder. Ellsbury is clearly the biggest jump of the group here. Going from tier seven in June to tier four in July? What a crazy jump! Well, yes and no. I was very skeptical of Ellsbury’s ability to hit for power, as shoulder injuries scare me when it comes to hitters (and gives me nightmares when it comes to pitchers). So far it seems as though he has picked up right where he finished last year. Ellsbury sent a long ball screaming over the wall in Gulf Coast action yesterday afternoon. It is assumed that Double-A Portland is next for him. If all goes well, he should be back very shortly after the All-Star Break.

Tier Five:
Alex Gordon
Matt Joyce
David Murphy
B.J. Upton
Daniel Nava
Trevor Plouffe
Carl Crawford
Howie Kendrick
Nick Markakis

Gordon’s bounce back June was pretty heavily fueled by his .393 BABIP for the month. I think he’ll settle in somewhere slightly above his ZiPS .273/.341/.416 RoS line. He probably won’t ever have a year like last year, but he still a very fine player. A lot of people will see Gordon’s WAR and ask why he isn’t higher, and it is because of his excellent defense. Unless you play in a crazy defense-counts league, his 1.3 WAR in the field doesn’t help you at all. Matt Joyce should be back in action in less than a week, and the Rays offense could use him. I touched on Murphy in a Roto Riteup not even a week ago, and my opinion on him hasn’t changed yet. Trevor Plouffe is this years “what in the what?” guy. His power has trended upwards for the past several seasons, even if it was in the minors. Since 2009, his ISO has been .147 in Double-A, .187 in Triple-A in 2010 and then last year he set his highwater mark of .323 ISO in Triple-A again. So far in the majors his ISO is .320, so it isn’t a total out-of-nowhere type. It was just the out-of-somewhere-that-no-one-thought-would-happen. His BABIP is low, but when 18 of 50 hits clear the fence, it’s going to be low. I’d anticipate Plouffe coming back down to Earth in the home run department, but I figure his AVG will rise to the mid .260’s. Plouffe is basically everything eligible, so I’d plug him in at SS or MI to get the full extent of his value. Crawford sneaks in here as well, mostly because he is already in Double-A on rehab. If he can reach his rate stats of his ZiPS, then maybe me holding on to him for so long won’t feel so bad. (It will still feel bad, but maybe not as bad? Right? Right? Nevermind. Pour me another.)

Tier Six:
Brett Gardner
Colby Rasmus
Denard Span
Yeonis Cespedes
Kendrys Morales
Rajai Davis
Cody Ross
Torii Hunter
Ichiro Suzuki
Mitch Moreland
Coco Crisp 

Gardner’s return has been delayed twice already, but now it is hoped that he will return in mid or at worst late July. We’ll see. Rasmus could hit .290 the rest of the way with 18 home runs or he could crater and end up getting sent down. I really have no idea at this point. I so badly want to believe that he’ll keep hitting, but I just don’t know. I’m making this Rasmus ranking my official “This will look silly, one way or another” pick of the month. Cespedes is having really noticeable contact issues at the plate. And in the field. Really, everywhere. But when he isn’t butchering plays in the outfield grass, he is swinging and missing at pitches. His strikeout rate is above 22% and it won’t come down until he stops waving at so many pitches. His SwStr% would be third worst in baseball if he had enough PA’s to qualify. His contact rate would be fourth worst. If you’re in a re-draft league, I’d throw him out as trade bait and see what (if any) offers you may receive. Moreland would have rated higher, if not for the significant injury to his left hamstring. I couldn’t find any updates on him, but initial reports had him at missing at least four weeks. Those reports are over two weeks old, but I still figure he’ll be out another month.

Tier Seven:
Brandon Moss
Peter Bourjos
Ben Revere
Chris Davis
Dayan Viciedo
Ryan Kalish
Michael Saunders
Quentin Berry
Michael Brantley
Raul Ibanez

Yep, we’ve almost finished our descent into the deepest of the deep leagues at this point. Kalish is mildy inspiring in keeper leagues, but his production (in a ridiculously small sample size) to date has been less than midly pathetic. Ibanez was struck in the face by a foul-tip while in the dugout, and had to be taken away to have tooth chips removed and stitches placed in his mouth. He isn’t expected to miss much time, but given that he is sitting against lefties and his age, it isn’t hard to envision Ibanez’s playing time receiving a big cut in the near future.

Tier Eight:
Luke Scott
Andy Dirks
Delmon Young
Jarrod Dyson
Seth Smith
Vernon Wells
Brennan Boesch

Dirks is only so low because of the mystery surrounding his injury. We know that he is a walking boot, but with no timetable on a rehab assignment, it is just impossible to even guess. He has already missed a month of action with this Achilles injury, and many owners are simply tired of waiting. The rest of this tier is either a reserve, or someone who should probably be a reserve.

And yes, I am devastated that Xavier Avery is already back down in Triple-A. #FreeXavierAvery




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  1. #FreeXavierAvery !!!

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    • David Wiers says:

      If only. I don’t even know why I love him so much. Random baseball man-crushes I suppose.

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      • I’ve watched him in Norfolk and he’s really progressed nicely.
        His approach is SO much better.

        Add that along with an awesome name, a really crappy Orioles corner OF, and you have a good reason to love him.

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      • David Wiers says:

        Yeah, I like the Thome move, but to send down Avery is puzzling.

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    • Atari says:

      The guy can hit a fastball but he really needs to learn how to hit breaking balls or he will never survive in the Show. Yes, it sounds cliche but for Avery its real.

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  2. Ooosh says:

    I look forward to seeing where Rasmus actually ends up.

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    • David Wiers says:

      He’s done the opposite of what I’ve predicted for like 9 straight months. I give up on trying to figure him out.

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  3. JR says:

    David, where would you slot Ben Revere? Tier Six?

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    • David Wiers says:

      It appears as though I mysteriously left him off. Editing now.

      After 1450 words and about 50 names, I guess he slipped through the cracks

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    • Atari says:

      I love Ben Revere. He is my speed specialist. I am in a league where offensive Ks is a stat, so he helps me in SB-AVG-R-Ks. Really helps balance out my lineup.

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  4. JohnChoiniere says:

    No mention of Ben Revere?

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    • David Wiers says:

      I just whiffed on him. I edited it and slotted him in Tier Seven, just behind Bourjos.

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      • JohnChoiniere says:

        Probably about right, though I’m hoping for more.

        Fun fact about Revere: of all active non-pitchers with over 100 PA, he’s the only one who’s never hit a home run.

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      • David Wiers says:

        Kurt Suzuki doesn’t have a homer yet.

        Or did you mean just OF?

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      • JohnChoiniere says:

        About the HRs, I mean he’s *never* hit one. 700ish career PA and zero home runs.

        A few weeks ago, he was the only current MLB player who had 100 or more PA without *ever* hitting one (excluding pitchers). A quick glance at the data for this season indicates the threshold needs to be a bit higher I think, though, for it to still be true now. So, he’s the only active (as in 25-man roster) non-pitcher with 200+ PA without a HR in his career.

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  5. benj says:

    Ichiro?

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    • David Wiers says:

      I kept bumping lower on my spreadsheet and accidentally left him off. Bottom of Tier Six. He just isn’t Ichiro anymore.

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      • Peter says:

        Ben Revere is the new Ichiro.

        Seriously, Revere is more or less the same player Ichiro was in his prime.

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      • David Wiers says:

        Umm, I’ll go with less.

        Ichiro is practically decomposing and his AVG is still only 11 points lower than Revere’s career number.

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  6. Productive Out says:

    Ah Frenchy? I believe he starts everyday in the outfield for the Royals of KC, a real team in the AL Central

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  7. IronyMan says:

    #Xaviery!!!!

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  8. Kiel says:

    harper?

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  9. Devil Dogs says:

    Man crush on Rasmus

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    • David Wiers says:

      I used to have one. Perhaps I shall fall in love again. It’s like we were engaged, and then he went and cheated on me. For two straight years.

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  10. GreenMan says:

    Colby Rasmus is blossoming the Madison Bumgarner of the junior circuit. No matter how mind-blowingly good he performs, nobody cares.

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    • David Wiers says:

      Come again? You don’t think many people appreciate Rasmus and his career .329 wOBA?

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    • kid says:

      Rasmus has largely been a mess on offense, and on more than one occasion on defense. Bumgarner has actually performed. Rasmus has mostly been empty promises of performance.

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  11. everdiso says:

    MLB D.Jennings (23-25): 546pa, 15hr, 77r, 48rbi, 35sb, 52bb, 112k, .245/.328/.405/.733
    AAA D.Jennings (22-25): 1004pa, 18hr, 174r, 92rbi, 69sb, 111bb, 161k, .282/.372/.428/.800

    I don’t get the hype.

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    • kid says:

      I never got it, either. Fans and fantasy players clamored for him, but his underlying stats were always pretty weak given his age relative to his level.

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      • David Wiers says:

        Even though he wasn’t exactly young for any of his leagues, his numbers were still impressive. Even accounting for a decent amount of stringer error, his LD% is still about average.

        I’ve been steadily dropping him throughout the rankings, but still keeping him in the upper half. I can only hope that he hits like last year.

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      • everdiso says:

        not sure I see any of his minor league numbers as overly impressive (at least ‘top offensive prospect’ impressive) other than his 2009 season (at two levels), really.

        and his overall numbers at the highest levels – AAA and MLB – are pretty meh for a 25 year old.

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      • David Wiers says:

        a 136 wRC+ in Triple-A (the IL, not even the PCL) doesn’t impress you at all?

        Wow. Tough crowd.

        He wasn’t young when he did it, but he wasn’t exactly old either.

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      • everdiso says:

        IMO 136wRC+ at age 24 in AAA is not really special at all. especially since it was his 2nd or 3rd time in AAA.

        Some other 24 year olds in AAA the past couple of years:

        E.Thames 150
        B.Guyer 150
        R.Wheeler 147
        R.Lavarnway 146
        T.Green 145
        J.Arencibia 143
        D.Cooper 142
        B.Allen 140
        F.Martinez 133
        Y.Alonso 131
        L.Anderson 129
        C,Davis 128

        I mean don’t get me wrong, it’s pretty good, but IMO nowhere near good enough to just automatically rank him up in a tier beside consistently borderline elite OFers even when his MLB line is not very impressive so far.

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  12. TD says:

    Francoeur?

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  13. kdm628496 says:

    kubel?

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  14. Plasmaj says:

    You think dyson is better than Crisp?

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    • David Wiers says:

      I like Crisp a marginal amount more. I think the A’s move him to a contender. I hope they do. And if they do manage to trade him, then ideally he starts full time.

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  15. lester bangs says:

    Gardner is too high. Revere is too low.

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    • David Wiers says:

      Well I wouldn’t take this to the bank, but I do think when Gardner comes back, he’ll be just fine.

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  16. TheTinDoor says:

    About to pull the trigger on a Trevor Bauer for A-Gone deal (Keeper league). Happy to see you still rank AGone so highly. How would you project him ROS? My attempt:

    What I will settle for: 10 HR, 40 R, 45 RBI, .270 Avg (basically what he’s done so far, plus a few HR)

    Upside that I hope for: 14 HR, 50 R, 55 RBI, .285 Avg

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    • David Wiers says:

      You’re giving up Bauer for A-Gon? I think I like that, but you couldn’t get a little bit younger of a hitter? Or are you trying to win this year?

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      • TheTinDoor says:

        This year. Don’t like giving up Bauer, but sitting in 2nd, and the first place team just traded away Moore/Rizzo for stud pitching. AGone won’t be kept, but his floor is better than my current 5th OF and his upside could help me win the league.

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      • David Wiers says:

        All in all, sounds like a pretty good deal to me. Best of luck!

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    • kid says:

      Don’t see Bauer as a “Sure fire” guy – The control obviously need a lot of work before he’s the type of guy you are comfortable rolling out there for each start.

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  17. rubesandbabes says:

    Yes, Ben Revere is starting to show the hit the ball on the ground speed game that Jemile Weeks is not yet developing. he might keep it up a while..

    And don’t trade Cespedes if ya got him – his soon upside is too great. My suspicion is that he is going through a rough patch mentally, possibly due to learning curve fatigue. He is also coming back from injury.

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  18. kid says:

    List looks good. ‘Cept I might go higher on Trumbo (I was guilty of thinking he couldn’t survive w/o taking walks, but I was wrong), lower on Dunn (unless you have the time/energy to monitor his daily lineups) and higher on Cespedes (.500 slg ability, plus a handful of steals, batting 4th),

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    • David Wiers says:

      I was guilty of that too. I thought he’d burn out and pitchers could exploit the holes in his swing. He’s really changed his approach beautifully.

      I adore Dunn. Even though I kind of hedged my bets by only taking him in about half of my leagues, I am a huge fan.

      I see Cespedes as someone who has a ton of adjustments that need to be made. I’m skeptical of his ability for the rest of this year, but I think he’ll have a solid MLB career.

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  19. Daniel says:

    There is a SERIOUS problem here. Craig Gentry??????? Leonys Martin???

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    • David Wiers says:

      I’m not crazy about a 28 year old with a .417 BABIP going forwad (Gentry). Nor am I all that excited about someone who has all of 28 PA’s so far.

      Maybe in upcoming Stock Watches I will mention those guys, but for now, I feel totally comfortable leaving them off.

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  20. Jason says:

    What’s Rios gotta do to get some respect? He’s been performing for over a month now. I’m not buying in ’13, but for the rest of this year I’m in.

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    • David Wiers says:

      Well, what makes you like him for half of a season in the future, but not the time after that? I think Rios’ position by Zobrist and Swisher is pretty fair.

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  21. brandon says:

    Grandy misses Gardner re: rbi opps, as do Teix, cano and arod. Gardner was a 100 run player out of the 9-hole. Imo, none of those players are being downgraded appropriately, and all of their rbi totals have suffered.

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    • David Wiers says:

      Ehh, yes and no. Jeter’s current OBP on the season is .351, and Gardner’s career rate is .355.

      I think saying that Tex, Cano and Granderson are “missing the RBI opportunities” is a little overblown.

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  22. Joe says:

    No Cuddyer?

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  23. JKB says:

    I’ll buy a round of drinks for all owners still holding Crawford.

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  24. matlock says:

    suprisingly at a pass here: drop helton for bourjos? ops keeper leagye, deep at 1b, 18 teams

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    • David Wiers says:

      I assume the round/dollar value for each is pretty low + whatever inflation rate your league has in place?

      I think I’d hang on to Bourjos. Just last off season his name was floated out there to be traded, and I’ll be surprised if the Angels don’t try and move him this year. Even if that doesn’t happen, this is Hunter’s last year of his contract.

      Bourjos will get playing time in the future, as an Angel or elsewhere.

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  25. batpig says:

    Can you explain the reasoning for Josh Hamilton dropping all the way out of the first tier, and behind Adam Jones to boot?

    Hamilton has clearly outperformed Jones YTD in 5×5 categories:

    JH: .309 AVG, 53 R, 26 HR, 74 RBI, 6 SB
    AJ: .297 AVG, 54 R, 20 HR, 44 RBI, 11 SB

    And Hambone’s ZiPS ROS is superior, plus of course that longer history of this type of elite performance. The only potential negative with Hamilton is always the injury possibility if he misses time.

    Yes he slowed down a bit in June, but Adam Jones also regressed in June back to his “normal” self (.272/.299/.427) after his blazing April/May. I just don’t see the logic in this ranking.

    Hamilton should be the 4th OF in Tier 1, with AJones safely in Tier 2.

    Then we can talk about kicking Austin Jackson and his underwhelming counting stats down a tier or two where he belongs. Unless you think he can keep hitting over .300 going forward, in which case you should reexamine your analysis.

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  26. David Wiers says:

    Hamilton only has the ZiPS RoS advantage in AVG, RBI and HR, so three out of the five primary offensive categories. I can see where you’re coming from there on that complaint.

    The thing is, I like Jones to reach his ZiPS (let alone exceed it) much more than Hamilton.The Brilliant Dave Cameron has written a couple excellent articles on Hamilton’s recent struggles at the plate. You really want to wager that Hamilton will reach his ZiPS when he is struck out over 32% in the month of June? So that is why I like Jones more. And really? You’re arguing one a one spot difference in rank? Pick your battles, man.

    Why can’t Jackson keep hitting .300? So his BABIP is sky high. Big deal. His lifetime average BABIP is .376. With what I think is truly improved plate discipline (most notably his O-swing%), why can’t he keep this up?

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    • batpig says:

      “And really? You’re arguing one a one spot difference in rank? Pick your battles, man.”

      hey, it’s not like I was all “OMG this is the WORST ranking ever! I can’t believe you had Hamilton behind Adam Jones!! OMG YOU ARE THE WORST!”” I asked a question and provided my evidence, and I don’t think I was unreasonable or abrasive in my question.

      I agree to some degree it’s splitting hairs but I think it’s a fair question to ask and I don’t think the dialogue is pointless, so I don’t see the need for that type of attitude.

      Regardless, to me it’s more about a “tiering” issue than a “ranking” issue. You had Hamilton at #1 overall last time and this time he drops to Tier 2. I don’t see any reason to leave him out of Tier 1 outside of the injury potential.

      I’ve read DC’s articles but you basically have to believe that Hamilton is unable to make any adjustments to his approach to counteract the trend that Dave noted. Hamilton himself (and his hitting coach) is aware of this problem, and it’s worth noting that coming into today he had only K’d once in 12 PA in July so far. His ZiPS ROS line (.298/.357/.537) is basically a touch below his career numbers and seems perfectly reasonable to me. But whatever, they are pretty close.

      As to Jackson, I just don’t think he’s in the same tier. His counting stats (9 homers, 7 steals, 37 rbi) are pretty underwhelming to be in the same class as Hamilton and Jones. I think he’s more of a .290 hitter going forward and without elite counting stats I can’t see him being in the same tier.

      I also don’t see why Willingham is a tier above Trumbo, they are basically the same player at this point.

      So again I guess it’s more about the tiering than the absolute ranking. I think Jackson and Willingham are a lot closer to Trumbo than to Josh Hamilton in overall fantasy value.

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      • David Wiers says:

        Clearly we are running on separate wavelengths if you think I’m coming off as having “an attitude.” I don’t think I’m especially snarky (at least not for an amateur/aspiring sabermetrician) at all.

        So you see it as more of a “tiering than a ranking.” I agree. The places in each tier are largely arbitrary (as is this whole ranking, really). Also, I never called the dialogue pointless, in fact, far from it. Not to toot my own horn here, but I think I answer questions/address comments about as well as anyone on FG/RG. My attitude is basically non-existent, at least in my estimation.

        Ah, the ol’ 1 K in 12 PA adjustment rgument. Good call. (FWIW, that was me being snarky there.) Of course I know that Hamilton and his coaching staff are trying to make adjustments. That is their job. I don’t think his true talent K% is 32.8%, but I do see reasonable doubt that it will be as low as his career level of 18%.

        As for Jackson, I see him scoring a ton of runs in the second half, in addition to what I’ve already stated about him. Prince Fielder is hitting almost 30 points below his past 3 year wOBA average. I know the AL/NL gap, but I seriously doubt it is that much. If Jackson doesn’t score 100 runs this year, I’ll be surprised and disappointed.

        For the rest of this season, I still prefer Willingham over Trumbo for the massive ZiPS RoS gap. Willingham is up at .363, Trumbo at .335. I think Trumbo will out-hit that, but we’ll have to see if the league can keep adjusting to Trumbo. After his excellent 9.8% walk rate in March/April, it has fallen to a season average of 6.7%. That alarms me.

        I totally hear your valid questions, and I try to address them as amicably as possible. If you’ve read anything I’ve done in the past, I hope you’ve noticed that I do try to get to every single comment.

        That clear everything up?

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      • batpig says:

        I give you a ton of credit/respect for being so willing to discuss your rankings in the comments section. Several other of your fellow RG authors should follow suit. I just didn’t feel like the “Pick your battles, man” comment was really warranted, Hamilton vs. Jones as you note is a pretty valid and IMO interesting discussion.

        Anyway, we all good, internet tone-meter fail in our rearview mirror. I appreciate your willingness to respond.

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      • batpig says:

        Sorry, one more comment on Willingham vs. Trumbo: the ROS gap you note is wOBA and the difference is entirely due to the OBP gap (JW obviously has a great edge in career BB%). But, these are standard 5×5 rankings. In the 5×5 categories Trumbo is ahead when you compare the ZiPS ROS.

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      • David Wiers says:

        Cool Beans. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOUrLn1FFCA

        Good point about the wOBA gaps being largely BB% (and as you noted, basically useless in 5×5 leagues). I guess to me personally, walks correlate very highly with offense, even in fantasy. I play in a pretty high stakes OBP league, so between that and Ottoneu, I keep tabs on OBP a lot more than the average bear. With that in mind, yeah, the gap between the Pork and Trumbo isn’t nearly as big; in fact, it may even disappear. Great call.

        Looking forward to more discussions in coming articles!

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  27. Gizzy says:

    I am being offered Granderson and a pitching upgrade essentially for Trumbo is a long-term keeper league.

    Who do you guys think will be better over the next 3 years or so?

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    • David Wiers says:

      Depends on the salaries, the depth of the league and the pitcher in question. Could you elaborate on that?

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  28. Gizzy says:

    Thanks. It’s a 12 team league (standard 5×5 scoring) and they would do Morrow or Zimmerman. We keep 4 players each year and do a snake draft after that. Pretty basic. Let me know if you need any more info.

    I particularly am wondering how real Trumbo’s .300+ BA is. Granderson seems pretty consistent in the .260 range…which perhaps is Trumbo’s downside. Do I value the youth and upside of Trumbo long term over the track record of Granderson? Seems like a tough call.

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    • David Wiers says:

      Could you give the current round value + the inflation price on Granderson, Trumbo and Morrow?

      As far as Trumbo’s .300 AVG is, I wouldn’t count on that going forward. His batted ball profile and strikeout rate isn’t really conducive to being a perennial .300 hitter. If you could shoot me the rest of the details of your league, I’ll give you an answer.

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      • Gizzy says:

        We keep 4 players and aren’t penalized in any way as far as draft picks are concerned (hence the round in which these guys were drafted isn’t relevant) – I think this is what your are getting at.

        My keepers last year were votto, tulowitzki, Stanton and matt holliday. With Holliday’s advancing age I will likely replace him with trumbo unless I trade trumbo for granderson.

        Thanks again for your thoughts.

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      • David Wiers says:

        I didn’t mean being penalized in draft picks, but the round in which you kept a player should be changed year to year, i.e.: inflation.

        I’m in a keeper league where a 29th (last round) draft pick this year can be kept at a 24th round value next year. And a 24th round draft pick this year is kept at a 20th round value. Basically this inflation keeps people from having a team with a 29th round Jose Bautista for forever.

        And wow, those are amazing keepers. I don’t know if I’d take Trumbo over Holliday, but I would keep Granderson over him.

        Does that help at all? And with only 4 keepers, I don’t think I’d ever keep a pitcher.

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  29. R M says:

    Look, I know Barry Bonds is old, but come on…how can you leave him off this list?

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  30. Jason says:

    Worth taking a look at Boesch… I know he’s a perennial tease, but he’s been producing lately. Just dropped Joyce for him (Joyce as my bench OF behind Trout, J. Upton, and Rios, and I’m concerned that he may have some lingering injury issues). Could regret that move, but that’s part of the fun of the game.

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