Eno’s Scoresheet Disasterpiece

Sorry we haven’t been keeping up on the Scoresheet coverage. Here’s the problem: so far, my team is terrible. I don’t feel I can advise anyone on this format yet. In fact, I need your help! So, I’ll post my team here and ask you what I should do. Because the latest results just came in, and after being shut out twice this week, I’m now worst in the league at 13-31. I should sell, but I can’t sell low. I don’t even know what to sell for, other than a third baseman, and maybe some offense.

I hang my head in shame.

Save Sarris, 12-team AL-only Scoresheet
(AL-Skeeter, commished by King Kaufman).

vs RHP vs LHP
Pos Hand Batting Order Pos Hand Batting Order
SS S Cliff Pennington SS R Yunel Escobar
LF L Brett Gardner RF R Nolan Reimold
1B R Albert Pujols 1B R Albert Pujols
2B L Kelly Johnson C R Mike Napoli
C R Mike Napoli DH R Shelley Duncan
CF L Alejandro De Aza 2B L Kelly Johnson
RF R Nolan Reimold 3B R Alex Liddi
3B R Brent Morel CF L Alejandro De Aza
DH L Johnny Damon LF R Collin Cowgill
BN R Shelley Duncan BN S Cliff Pennington
BN R Yunel Escobar BN L Brett Gardner
BN R Tyler Flowers BN R Brent Morel
BN R Collin Cowgill BN R Tyler Flowers
BN R Alex Liddi BN L Johnny Damon
BN L Alexi Amarista BN L Alexi Amarista
Def Farm
C Flowers LF L Carl Crawford
1B CF R Jacob Marisnick
2B Amarista 3B R Nick Castellanos
3B Liddi? 3B R Mike Olt
SS Pennington 2B R Matt Antonelli
LF Cowgill SS R Nick Franklin
SPs Bull
Order Hand vLHP vRHP Hand
1 L Matt Moore 1 1 R Greg Holland
2 R Ubaldo Jimenez 5 2 R Addison Reed
3 L Derek Holland 1 3 L Matt Thornton
4 R Derek Lowe 2 4 L Franklin Morales
5 R Jerome Williams 3 8 L Rafael Perez
4 7 L Charlie Furbush
Long Men Farm
6 L Drew Smyly R Kyle Farnsworth
7 R Tom Wilhelmsen R Jacob Turner
8 L Brian Matusz
9 R Junichi Tazawa

So? What should I do? Sell all my veterans for prospects and young players? Which shortstop do you keep? Can’t sell Pujols low, so that means selling Napoli? If I target anything in my trades, is it more pitching or hitting? Gotta be hitting.


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  1. Zach says:

    Disclaimer: I know almost nothing about Scoresheet. Why are you hitting Pennington first, and why are you hitting Pujols third. Both of those seem to fly in the face of what we know about lineup optimization.

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    • Eno Sarris says:

      Actually that was the first change I made today. I don’t think it’s been a big deal, but it was a bad idea. I had Yunel in that spot for a while, and he’s supposed to have a good OBP… As for Pujols, I’ve switched him and Napoli some.

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  2. lexomatic says:

    It seems to me that Escobar, even in a down year, provides more offense than Pennington from both sides of the plate. He also has upside at the position.
    How does defense change things?
    Reimold I guess would be a hold unless there’s a call-up who’s available that It seems like a bunch of these are wait and see type situations, until they prove to have cratered (reimold, back), or rebuilt value.
    Have you shopped Lowe at all?
    I’ve never played scoresheet… so who knows.
    My perfect record at yahoo is long gone too.

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  3. Chike says:

    Do you have a primer on Scoresheet? Like the other guys, I’ve never played it before, but it looks kind of cool.

    DHing Johnny Damon vs RHP seems loose. You have a strong bullpen – maybe sell of Reed and/or Thornton for a young, high upside bat?

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  4. NYCSSBB says:

    I’m in my first year of scoresheet, a ML 22 team league, and am above .500 so far. I’d definitely sell high on Napoli; C is so weak, plus he can play 1B, and he’s on the wrong side of 30. If you have someone competing in desperate need of pitching, maybe try to package Ubaldo for some amateur draft picks.

    Good luck!

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  5. Sell high on De Aza, Castellanos, Prospects. Maybe low for a mid level bat.

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  6. Napoli is your best chip for sure. Big decision coming up.

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  7. Enkidu says:

    In continuing scoresheeet leagues young players often, but not always, get over valued. The reason being is that you can keep as many minor league guys as you like protected on your roster (in most leagues). Thus every minor league play will be looked at as a future superstar and can be traded for a player with a known track record. So if you are going to go the trade for prospects route, I’d jump in with both feet knowing that A: it may take a few seasons to see the results and B: you eventually need to trade some of those prospects for reliable veteran players to make it work.

    The second thing I’d look at doing, if it is the future your looking at, is to trade your best bullpen guys and/or any older starter with a good ERA (Lowe) for draft picks. Teams contending for the playoffs in scoresheet need these types of playoffs. Because of the nature of scoresheet playoffs (many games decided by 1-2 runs) you need those low ERAs in the pen and the top of the rotation to win. I’d wait until you get closer to the trade deadline and don’t get to greedy on the picks in terms of what round they are (target rounds in the high teens to mid 20′s). If you can get 3 – 5 extra picks for next year’s draft it will give you a lot of flexibility in 2013.

    Sorry for the book. I’ve been playing scorehseet since 1993 and think it is a great time win or lose.

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  8. Mike says:

    Don’t know all the strategy of scoresheet, but as a general type of philosophy I’d say that there are probably only a few players worth holding onto on that team and most everyone else should be considered expendable.

    Contrary to others, I’d hold onto De Aza, as I think his value will only grow as the season progresses. Similarly hold onto Holland, Moore, and Reimold.

    Your pitching should be your primary currency with your bullpen. Move Lowe and Ubaldo for whatever you can get. I’d also get a sense of whether there’s anyone interested in Crawford, he could be a valuable midseason boost for a contender. Sell on Kelly johnson and Jerome Wiliams. Throw Morel on the scrap heap.

    I don’t know what your player pool is like but you might target some Astros as long term keepers with their move to the AL next year or at least keep that in mind when considering what positions could be filled, (ie Altuve filling a 2b hole). This is also when extra draft picks could be especially useful if those players aren’t available yet in your player pool.

    Oswalt could be a good speculative target, then once he signs with an AL team,(of which I think most his suitors are), you can sell higher. See what Pettite’s cost is. Look at some of the Mariners position players and O’s pitching because both tend to be undervalued because of their team’s respective reputations. Start speculating on players that may see increased playing time as other players get traded, demoted, or inevitably injured.

    Also I don’t know the specifics of how the batting order works but I’d think you’d want De Aza near the top of your lineup and Pennington near the bottom. Similarly I’d demote Moore to long relief until he gets his shit together and promote Smyly to your starting rotation.

    Andy Dirks might be a good speculative add depending on whether his owner thinks he’s for real or not. Same with Kyle Seager. Chris Davis is someone you could afford to take a chance on then sell high on if he pans out. Pedro Strop and Darren O’Day are a couple of bullpen pieces that are performing well but who seem to have been undervalued. Take a look at some guys that don’t have everyday roles but provide value when they are in the lineup like Craig Gentry, David Murphy, Rajai Davis, Eric Thames. Yan Gomes might be good speculative pickup and with the Jays planning on playing all over the field should develop all sorts of useful position eligibilities.

    Basically you’re at the point where you need to cut the dead wood, start thinking outside the box, and building incremental value wherever possible.

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  9. touchstone033 says:

    The big difference in roster management between rotisserie and Scoresheet baseball is that, in SS, you can’t randomly dip into the pool of free agents. Players are acquired through drafts only. That, and SS is a dynasty league, where you keep 13 players over to the next season.

    (There are other factors in player evaluation that differ from rotisserie to SS — defense, say, or OBP — but that’s a whole ‘nother thread. Here, with your roster, you should be concerned about rebuilding for…two years from now?)

    That means, in Scoresheet, your ultimate goal should be to create a core of 13 players that’s as good as it possibly can be. Period. And that’s doubly so for a 12-team league, where the pickins will be slim in the draft.

    That said, because prospects don’t count against that number, you can afford to have a lot. But because prospects do cost spring draft picks, you can’t have too many — and you certainly cannot waste those back-of-the-draft picks on prospects who are fringe, or even project to be league average.

    So who are your definite keepers? I count seven: Pujols, Johnson, Napoli, Escobar, Crawford, Moore, and Holland. (Relievers aren’t worth using keeper spots on if you’re not a contending team.) Six others are fringe-keepers – Jimenez, Smyly, Matusz, Gardner, DeAza, Reimold – because of injury history, effectiveness, talent. (Gardner & DeAza, while decent hitters, lack the defensive range for center field, and the power for a corner OF spot.) Essentially, you’re about halfway to a decent team.

    So, how do you get there? Two ways: through trade and drafts.

    As Enkidu wrote, relievers are great trade chips. Addison Reed is your big money-maker. Get draft picks and prospects — and, as Enkidu mentioned, consider prospects as much as currency as potential players on your team.

    Also, you do want to sell high. For example, trading Pujols now would be foolish. If he rebounds, you can get a lot more for him. (And I would deal him as quickly as possible. He won’t be on your roster when you finally field a competitive team.)

    Also trade for players with upside who are struggling. Rasmus. Hutchinson. Drabek. Look for undervalued player attributes, too. Do league member ignore walks? Range factor? Are pitcher strikeouts overvalued? Go after groundball pitchers on teams with good defenses.

    Take risks.

    And then in offseason, you can trade your keeper spots. And you can get decent draft picks for those. With this team, you could probably auction off three or four spots when all’s said and done, and really pillage the draft next year.

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  10. tb3nn3tt says:

    Pick out a handful of guys that you want to be your core guys going forward – guys who are going to be elite players for the next handful of years. Anyone else should be traded as soon as their value is elevated. Lowe is the obvious one who could go right now.

    The only players who have value to you right now are ones that will be in your top 13 going into 2013 OR players who will retain prospect eligibility going into next year. In your trades, target high upside guys who are struggling (Wainwright, Hosmer, Zobrist, Bautista, either Weeks brother are all good targets right now) or prospects.

    You might also try to pry away some picks in the June Scoresheet draft so you can snatch up the top guys taken in the amateur draft – a nice way to snag some top 25-50 prospects who would otherwise cost you a star player.

    If you don’t have 13 players worthy of being kept, then look to deal a keeper spot (or spots) for prospects – you’ll probably get more value once the year is done.

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  11. something blue says:

    My experience with Scoresheet (NL-Lollargaggers) is a good pitching rotation trumps a good lineup. Also, gotta watch out for those AAA innings pitched. My co-manager and I were talking the other night and we both agree having to swallow a few AAA at-bats is a much better proposition than being short on innings one week (though it looks like your bullpen is deep).

    @tb3nn3tt’s advice is sage for a team trying to build a young core. Although this year it looks like it’ll be harder to get good value from amatuer draft guys.

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  12. Hook it up says:

    Your hooks and earliest innings used for your staff are likely to be the easiest way to pick up a few games. Ask an experienced SS friend for some help, or email Jeff Barton on it.

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