Comments on: Church to Pittsburgh http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/church-to-pittsburgh/ Daily fantasy baseball analysis and strategy Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:47:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Brian Cartwright http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/church-to-pittsburgh/#comment-8878 Brian Cartwright Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:26:09 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/?p=6685#comment-8878 Clement would have to be in the top 17% on 2nd year players to be a Super2, and I see him as a barely replacement level 1b. I have always liked Church and don't mind signing him, but his health is a dice roll. Clement would have to be in the top 17% on 2nd year players to be a Super2, and I see him as a barely replacement level 1b.

I have always liked Church and don’t mind signing him, but his health is a dice roll.

]]> By: DonCoburleone http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/church-to-pittsburgh/#comment-8774 DonCoburleone Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:05:45 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/?p=6685#comment-8774 Seems to me like the Pirates are slooooowly headed in the right direction, and maybe signings like this and trades like the one for Aki signal that they're trying to go for .500 this year? I mean I realize Huntington's true goal is to set up a top notch farm system that can keep the major league club competetive every year, but surely he sees the value in showing progress at the major league level (in the form of more wins) sooner rather than later... Do they even have a 50/50 shot of reaching 81 wins this year? Seems to me like the Pirates are slooooowly headed in the right direction, and maybe signings like this and trades like the one for Aki signal that they’re trying to go for .500 this year? I mean I realize Huntington’s true goal is to set up a top notch farm system that can keep the major league club competetive every year, but surely he sees the value in showing progress at the major league level (in the form of more wins) sooner rather than later…

Do they even have a 50/50 shot of reaching 81 wins this year?

]]> By: bothstillplaying http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/church-to-pittsburgh/#comment-8770 bothstillplaying Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:44:51 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/?p=6685#comment-8770 If Jeff Clement is to establish himself at first base, it will be at AAA rather than in Pittsburgh. Thanks to the M's previous administration, Clement already has 150 days of MLB service time, putting him in jeopardy of being an arb-eligible super-two just a couple of years down the road. This sort of forces the Pirates to keep him down on the farm in hopes of maxing his most cost-effective service time, or at least until they have a better idea if Pedro Alvarez can handle third base (or will have to move across the diamond sooner rather than later). A far better use of Garrett Jones' pre-pumpkin time is to put him at first base where he is not a defensive liability (+2.4 UZR/150 in 2009 vs -7.9 UZR/150 at the OF corners last year) and use some combination of Church (+19.4 UZR/150 away from CF in 2009 and roughly the same career-wise), Moss (+10.6 UZR/150 as OF last year),and Milledge (+16.4 UZR/150 in LF in 2009) at the corners where all three are plus defenders. Not a bad low-cost stop-gap until they find out what they have in Jose Tabata starting his age-21 season in AAA. Also do note that Ryan Church has 4 years 152 days of MLB service time currently. So the Pirates do have a final year of arb-eligible control after the 2010 season should he regain his health and his power. This also won't hurt his flipability at the trade deadline, should a contender come looking for decent fielding, left-handed bat able to fill in at all three OF slots. If Jeff Clement is to establish himself at first base, it will be at AAA rather than in Pittsburgh. Thanks to the M’s previous administration, Clement already has 150 days of MLB service time, putting him in jeopardy of being an arb-eligible super-two just a couple of years down the road. This sort of forces the Pirates to keep him down on the farm in hopes of maxing his most cost-effective service time, or at least until they have a better idea if Pedro Alvarez can handle third base (or will have to move across the diamond sooner rather than later).

A far better use of Garrett Jones’ pre-pumpkin time is to put him at first base where he is not a defensive liability (+2.4 UZR/150 in 2009 vs -7.9 UZR/150 at the OF corners last year) and use some combination of Church (+19.4 UZR/150 away from CF in 2009 and roughly the same career-wise), Moss (+10.6 UZR/150 as OF last year),and Milledge (+16.4 UZR/150 in LF in 2009) at the corners where all three are plus defenders. Not a bad low-cost stop-gap until they find out what they have in Jose Tabata starting his age-21 season in AAA.

Also do note that Ryan Church has 4 years 152 days of MLB service time currently. So the Pirates do have a final year of arb-eligible control after the 2010 season should he regain his health and his power. This also won’t hurt his flipability at the trade deadline, should a contender come looking for decent fielding, left-handed bat able to fill in at all three OF slots.

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