Comments on: …Must Come Down

By: David Golebiewski

David Golebiewski — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:53:02 +0000

KowBoyKoop,

I only used qualified pitchers for the list.

By: Corris

Corris — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 06:46:44 +0000

Vazquez seems to make every list like this every year, and he seems continue to confound FIP and whatever stat based on K/BB/HR rate you want to look at.I would say hes an anomoly at this point whom one should expect to post an era at least a half run higher than his FIP at minnium and likely more.The guy has managed an ERA better than LG evaergae one year over the past 5.

Perhaps moving to the NL will help but I would not count on anything better then a 4.30-30ERA witha sub 4.00 era about as likely as one in the high 4s

By: MattS

MattS — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 03:13:26 +0000

This is a very good list as is the other, and I’d venture to guess that you’re probably right about all these guys. The only thing is that FIP is not all that wonderful a measure of ERA. FIP does not take into account the interaction between each of its components. Guys like Santana are going to be underrated by FIP because it doesn’t take into account how few of their HRs come with runners on due to the high K/BB ratio which keeps the runners on base low.

By: KowboyKoop

KowboyKoop — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:02:46 +0000

..and actually, this site has his FIP even lower. 4.43. Regardless….Hochevar should be a solid #4 starter.

By: KowboyKoop

KowboyKoop — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:00:21 +0000

When determing this list, was there an innings minimum qualifier?? If not, then why wasn’t Luke Hochevar on this list. 5.51 ERA, 4.51 FIP.

By: Rich

Rich — Sun, 08 Mar 2009 13:40:41 +0000

Jeter’s limited range wasn’t nearly as bad last season (-0.6 UZR/150) as it was in 2007 (-18.0 UZR/150), although given his defense over the last several years, I would expect some regression to his recent defensive mean.