Not Getting The Joba Done
For most 23 year-old starting pitchers, performing at an average level in the major leagues would be cause for celebration and optimism. Of course, Yankees right-hander Joba Chamberlain isn’t your run-of-the-mill arm.
The 6-2, 230 pounder was taken out of Nebraska with a supplemental first-round pick in the 2006 amateur draft. According to Baseball America (subscription required), Joba didn’t even pitch until his senior year of high school. But in a few short years, he went from a husky hurler getting hammered at Division II Nebraska-Kearney to a slimmed-down star leading the Cornhuskers to the College World Series.
BA’s draft scouting report mentioned that a triceps injury caused Chamberlain to fall down the board a bit, but his stuff was top-shelf. He possessed a “devastating slider,” a low-to-mid-90′s fastball that “should chew up wood bats” and a decent curveball and changeup.
Joba’s pitches did indeed munch on bats in the pros, as he barely spent any time in the minors. In 2007, Chamberlain posted rates of 13.8 K/9 and 2.8 BB/9 with a tiny 2.03 FIP. When hitters weren’t whiffing, they were chopping the ball into the dirt (53.8 GB%).
Earning a big league call-up in August, Chamberlain proceeded to punish hitters out of the bullpen. In 24 frames, he punched out 12.75 batters per nine frames, issuing 2.25 BB/9 with a 2.42 xFIP. Sitting at 97 MPH with his fastball, Joba had a 64.2% contact rate (3rd-lowest among pitchers with 20+ IP) and a massive 35.1 outside swing percentage (25% MLB average).
Since then, there have been endless barstool arguments about Joba’s ultimate role with the Bronx Bombers. In 2008, Chamberlain made 12 starts and 30 relief appearances. He started the year in the ‘pen, transitioned to the rotation in June and then moved back to relief in September following a DL stint for right shoulder tendinitis.
Joba was superb in both roles. To no one’s surprise, he dominated out of the bullpen, with 11.3 K/9, 3.6 BB/9 and a 2.31 ERA in 35 innings. But he was arguably more impressive as a starter, with 10.2 K/9, 3.44 BB/9 and a 2.76 ERA in 65.1 IP. Overall, his groundball rate was a healthy 52 percent.
He didn’t go extremely deep into those games, averaging a little less than 5 and 2/3 innings per start. But the answer to the “starter or reliever?” question appeared to be an easy one. Even the best relievers don’t generally produce the same sort of value as an above-average starter. It’s more difficult to find a quality starter than it is to uncover a ‘pen arm.
In 2009, Chamberlain made 32 appearances (31 starts) in 157.1 innings pitched. The results, while far from bad, were disappointing. Joba’s 4.75 ERA was higher than his 4.56 xFIP, as his batting average on balls in play was a hefty .320. Still, we expected more than league-average pitching.
Chamberlain struck out 7.61 hitters per nine frames, while handing out 4.35 walks per nine innings. He served up 1.2 HR/9, and his home run per fly ball rate wasn’t really the culprit (12.4%, slightly above the average for pitchers). Rather, Joba’s groundball rate fell to 42.9 percent. Some of those extra fly balls cleared the fence at New Yankee Stadium (1.39 HR/9 at home, 0.94 HR/9 on the road). He transitioned to the bullpen for the playoffs.
His plate discipline stats were decidedly average. Joba’s 80.2% contact rate was a tiny bit better than the 80.5% MLB average, and his percentage of contact within the strike zone (90.6) was well above the 87.8% big league average.
His control came and went, with 47 percent of his pitches located within the strike zone (49.3% MLB average) and a 54.7 first-pitch strike percentage (58.2% MLB average). Hitters responded to Chamberlain’s lack of fine touch by chasing few pitches off the plate. Chamberlain’s outside swing percentage was 22.8 percent.
As one would expect, Chamberlain’s velocity dipped as he had to combat lineups several times. He sat between 92 and 93 MPH in 2009, with his high-80′s slider becoming a mid-80′s breaker. Chamberlain also mixed in some high-70′s curveballs and the occasional low-80′s changeup.
Remember that fastball that was supposed to “chew up” lumber? Well, Joba’s heat was one of the least effective pitches in the majors in 2009. He threw the fastball nearly 64 percent of the time, but it had a gruesome run value of -1.26 per 100 pitches thrown. On a per pitch basis, only Jeff Suppan and Carl Pavano fared worse with the fastball.
Joba’s cheddar didn’t show much tailing action. The average right-handed fastball moves in toward a right-handed batter about six inches more a pitch thrown without spin. Chamberlain’s only tailed in toward righties a little more than four inches. Joba’s fastball posted just a 3.3 percent whiff rate. The average for a righty four-seam fastball is about 5.8 percent.
What about that low first pitch strike percentage? According to Joe Lefkowitz’s Pitch F/X Tool, Chamberlain tossed his fastball about 68 percent on the first pitch. He threw a strike with his fastball a meager 52.2 percent of the time in such situations. The average first pitch strike percentage when a righty throws a fastball is about 58 percent.
Chamberlain often ended up at the mercy of his opponents. Hitters worked a three-ball count in 23.4 percent of their plate appearances against Joba, compared to the 20.2 percent average for AL pitchers.
It’s a shame that Chamberlain got behind the hitter so often, as it limited the impact that his breaking pitches could make. His slider (thrown 22 percent of the time) had a run value of +1.29 per 100 pitches, while his curveball (thrown nine percent) was slightly better than average (+0.12). Don’t ask about the changeup (-2.56, though it was tossed just five percent).
With New York’s acquisition of Javier Vazquez, the Yankees have four starting spots set in stone (CC Sabathia, A.J. Burnett and Andy Pettitte are obviously locks as well). That leaves one opening for either Chamberlain or Phil Hughes. Both are well-qualified, and both could certainly end up taking some starts. Clubs just don’t get through a season using only their top five starters.
While Chamberlain didn’t set the world on fire in 2009, he just turned 24 in late September. Hopefully, he gets another crack at the rotation. For the sake of argument, let’s say Joba becomes “only” a 4.00 FIP starter at his peak. If he tosses 175 innings, that would make him worth about 2.7 wins above replacement per season. In 2009, the only reliever to top that WAR total was Jonathan Broxton, with +2.9. It’s awfully hard to make a reasonable argument that Chamberlain has more value out of the ‘pen.
Joba left a sour taste in the mouths of the fantasy owners who dropped a high draft pick on him last year. However, don’t get too discouraged. Surely, Chamberlain has his flaws at the moment. He must do a better job of locating his fastball in order to avoid so many hitter’s counts. That, in turn, would allow him to use his plus slider and solid curve more often. But should we really be shocked that a guy who spent half a season in the minors is rough around the edges?
That’s not to say New York made the wrong decision in bringing him up in 2007-Chamberlain was throttling minor league batters. However, Chamberlain might need some development time before he reaches the lofty expectations bestowed upon him. Pitchers don’t always hit the ground running, progressing in a linear fashion. Joba might not be the instant ace some desired, but there’s plenty of time for him to become a high-caliber big league starter.

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Nice analysis, but my argument for Joba being in the pen for the Yankees would be the Yanks and their ridiculous resources can afford to have a better option in the rotation while ‘wasting’ Joba in the bullpen and getting a top notch shutdown RP out of it. Most teams don’t have that luxury, the Yanks do.
Just because you have the resources doesnt mean you shouldnt develop your own SP.
You cant have 5 SP with 150m+ contracts, even for the Yankees that cant work, especially when those guys are signed until 35-38 and they’re not longer top starters, you’re stuck.
You are right, but it is one starter who has clearly proven he is a shutdown closer in the making and a questionable starter (to date), I’d rather see Phil Hughes given the chance to start.
On almost any other team, I think it would be foolish to not start Joba, but on THIS particular Yankees team who have a window of about 2-3 years to be completely dominant and pickup a few titles possibly, and Joba best serves that ’cause’ as a RP, right now.
“You are right, but it is one starter who has clearly proven he is a shutdown closer in the making and a questionable starter (to date)”
you can say the exact same thing about hughes.
To Matt B., the Yankees can’t really “afford” that type of thinking. At some point, the team needs to save money and with most of its resources tied up in position players, developing a group of starting pitchers like Chamberlain and Hughes is key.
The Yankees, believe it or not, have limitations on what they can spend, especially with Hal Steinbrenner now running the show. It’s important for them to use Joba as a starter, for at least a few more seasons (until he proves otherwise), before they send him to the bullpen. One bump in the road doesn’t mean you should pull the car over and find a bicycle. You need to keep at it as that is the most efficient method.
200+ million should be more than enough!
The problem I have with the Yankees is that IMO, I don’t feel they’ve gone about this right. If you’re going to make him a starter you got to let him go deep into games, pitch his way out of jams, and not hold him to a pitch count or be pulling him the 3rd or 4th inning. I personally think he’s destined to be a reliever but if they’re going to have him start they have to treat him like a starter and not a reliever.
Joba’s made 40+ starts for the yankees, and only a handful of those starts were off of the 3-4 inning variety when he was nearing his inning cap. he won’t have the inning cap in 2010.
i would be more interested to see his advanced stats at the point of the 2009 season where he reached his career pro innings max. If i remember correctly after he threw about 100-110 innings (which was his high) he really started to fall apart. Maybe those 50 extra innings or so where pitched during a period of fatigue due to his exceeding career innings limit for a season.
Yeah, all of the bogus “Joba” rules are probably messing with his head.
why are they bogus? what’s bogus about trying to keep a young starter’s arm in tact? I do think though, and i base this on nothing but my own perception, which could easily be 100% incorrect, that Joba often had the sense that he could only put so much into any start, because of the innings cap thing.
The yankees tried to “jerk him around” towards the end of the year because they were hoping (to no avail) that they’d have the option of using Joba as a starter come playoff time. In hindsight, since this didn’t work out, it would have probably been better to just let him pitch at 100% up until his innings limit and then shut him down. But the yankees had to do everything they could to avoid a 3-man rotation in the playoffs. I’m ok with that.
I do hope though that Joba doesn’t hesitate to rear back and huck it by guys this year as much as he appeared to last year. I got the impression (again, right or wrong) that he was trying to personally protect/develop his own arm. That’s terrific for bullpens, but you can’t do that in games. You have to just trust the guys in charge.
Enough with the “we only hve a small window to win a bunch of championships” argument. The Yankees will be a revolving door of talent, they will always have great players who seem like they only have a couple good years of production left, but the goal is to sustain a winning team not go for broke when the chance presents itself. This is the yankees, not a small market team.
i don’t belive this is the same joba that firsr came uo . he has not been the same since after his time on the dl. i would think hye is still hurt
” It’s awfully hard to make a reasonable argument that Chamberlain has more value out of the ‘pen.”
I could not count how many times the bullpen (Veras, et al) could not keep the game close or hold a lead in the 7th or 8th inning of 2007 until they brought in Joba. That’s how it all began. We again were spoiled when Phil H did the same thing in 09. Keep Joba in the pen and groom him to replace MO after 2011. If not, you’ll have some real stats to talk about.
Just dumb!
Looks like Matt B. was right…