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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/nothing-wang-with-chien-ming/#comment-1847</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting 20 wins doesn&#039;t really have anything to do with how good of a pitcher he is....and maybe Cano is just a streaky player.  His value is mostly average based, so he is basically prisoner to the whims of his BABIP from year to year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting 20 wins doesn&#8217;t really have anything to do with how good of a pitcher he is&#8230;.and maybe Cano is just a streaky player.  His value is mostly average based, so he is basically prisoner to the whims of his BABIP from year to year.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything about Cano is all over the place... But he has the potential to be a very productive player in the future, and I think this past year, and all the criticism really taught Robinson a lesson. Let&#039;s hope that he goes back to his 2006-07 days. 

Also, Wang should reach that 20-win plateau that had eluded him for the past few seasons. He&#039;s that good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything about Cano is all over the place&#8230; But he has the potential to be a very productive player in the future, and I think this past year, and all the criticism really taught Robinson a lesson. Let&#8217;s hope that he goes back to his 2006-07 days. </p>
<p>Also, Wang should reach that 20-win plateau that had eluded him for the past few seasons. He&#8217;s that good.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean:

You make a very good point - Cano&#039;s defensive statistics are everywhere, and it&#039;s hard to tell who the real Cano is. The jury is out, and I think next season will be an important test to determine just how good (or bad) a defender he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean:</p>
<p>You make a very good point &#8211; Cano&#8217;s defensive statistics are everywhere, and it&#8217;s hard to tell who the real Cano is. The jury is out, and I think next season will be an important test to determine just how good (or bad) a defender he is.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul:

I think Wang&#039;s lowered GB% can be directly traced to the fact that he&#039;s thrown more sliders every year since first coming to the majors (at the expense of a changeup, it appears). However, I think that the rise in sliders is also directly correlated to a rise in strikeouts. In other words, it appears that Wang is foregoing some grounders in exchange for increased strikeouts. That seems like a worthwhile tradeoff, especially considering Wang still induced a lot of grounders in 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul:</p>
<p>I think Wang&#8217;s lowered GB% can be directly traced to the fact that he&#8217;s thrown more sliders every year since first coming to the majors (at the expense of a changeup, it appears). However, I think that the rise in sliders is also directly correlated to a rise in strikeouts. In other words, it appears that Wang is foregoing some grounders in exchange for increased strikeouts. That seems like a worthwhile tradeoff, especially considering Wang still induced a lot of grounders in 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;(having Jeter and Cano fielding so many grounders can’t be good for your health, let alone your ERA)&quot;

I agree that Jeter with only a few exceptions over his career is a minus defender.  However, I disagree on Cano.  From 2006 through Wang&#039;s injury this past June, Cano probably saved Wang runs.  He was bad his rookie year but improved immensely to a +8.1 UZR last year.  This year was a Jekyll and Hyde type of season defensively (http://www.replacementlevel.com/index.php/RLYW/direct/why_did_the_2008_yankees_disappointdefense_edition).  Cano looked like he&#039;d gotten even better defensively over the first 3 months.  I don&#039;t know what his UZR was in mid-July but his ZR was .865, a 19 pts better than &#039;07.  Then for about a month and a half/two months he was just dreadful, and looked like a completely different defender.  Then in Sept he turned back into a very good defender again.  

Maybe that bad stretch was just a reversion to mean and Cano truly isn&#039;t capable of an .850 ZR or a +8 UZR, but since he was playing at that level for about a season and a half, I doubt it was a fluke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;(having Jeter and Cano fielding so many grounders can’t be good for your health, let alone your ERA)&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree that Jeter with only a few exceptions over his career is a minus defender.  However, I disagree on Cano.  From 2006 through Wang&#8217;s injury this past June, Cano probably saved Wang runs.  He was bad his rookie year but improved immensely to a +8.1 UZR last year.  This year was a Jekyll and Hyde type of season defensively (<a href="http://www.replacementlevel.com/index.php/RLYW/direct/why_did_the_2008_yankees_disappointdefense_edition" rel="nofollow">http://www.replacementlevel.com/index.php/RLYW/direct/why_did_the_2008_yankees_disappointdefense_edition</a>).  Cano looked like he&#8217;d gotten even better defensively over the first 3 months.  I don&#8217;t know what his UZR was in mid-July but his ZR was .865, a 19 pts better than &#8217;07.  Then for about a month and a half/two months he was just dreadful, and looked like a completely different defender.  Then in Sept he turned back into a very good defender again.  </p>
<p>Maybe that bad stretch was just a reversion to mean and Cano truly isn&#8217;t capable of an .850 ZR or a +8 UZR, but since he was playing at that level for about a season and a half, I doubt it was a fluke.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Singman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Singman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 05:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, Wang certainly does have a great career GB%, but when I look at his seasonal percentages, I find a concerning trend. Every year since he&#039;s came to MLB his ground ball percentage has gone down, and in 2008 it was 9 percentage points lower than it was in 2005. 

I have no idea if this trend will continue but I am a bit hesitant to say nothing is &quot;wang&quot; with Wang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, Wang certainly does have a great career GB%, but when I look at his seasonal percentages, I find a concerning trend. Every year since he&#8217;s came to MLB his ground ball percentage has gone down, and in 2008 it was 9 percentage points lower than it was in 2005. </p>
<p>I have no idea if this trend will continue but I am a bit hesitant to say nothing is &#8220;wang&#8221; with Wang.</p>
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