MASH Report (7/3/14) – HURT and PAIN Reports

• I wrote about the currently state of Tommy John surgeries at The Hardball Times on Monday and Tuesday.

The key points for fantasy owners are ..

… no velocity increase after surgery…

Tommy John surgery doesn’t help a pitcher increase velocity. While there was a small increase from Season 1 to Season 3 in our sample, it would not be worth it for a pitcher to miss at a minimum one season to see a 0.1 mph bump that they then will immediately lose. Probably most of the increase is from a decline in production before the injury knocked them out of action, as well as the time spent rehabbing.

… and the pitcher will struggle their first season back ….

The first season back from Tommy John is by far the worst for the pitcher, with all major stats headed in the wrong direction. By the second year, most stats have stabilized, except strikeouts. It’s not surprising to see strikeouts decline, since velocity is also declining.

… and the second TJs is happens about 3-4 years after the first one.

This area is ripe for some research. In the 2013 THT Annual, we found pitchers had about 650 innings between their first and second procedure, though the sample size was miniscule. Recently, I ran a brief study using the up-to-date TJS database and found those pitchers who had their first TJS from before 2011 averaged 4.5 years until they needed to go under the knife again, with a median time of 4.0 years. These numbers are in the ballpark of the 650 innings value we originally found.

• A new sleeve may help prevent Tommy John surgeries in the future.

“If the motion capture is a 10, then the Sleeve is almost a 10,” he said. “It’s already capturing at a higher rate (1,000 frames per second versus their current 500 fps for motion capture). It requires no setup, and when we compare various measures to the database we’ve built doing years of motion capture, it’s very good.”

Those measures alone will astound. The Sleeve can not only capture things like arm speed and release point, but it can calculate the angles of the elbow and shoulder. It can directly measure, in real time, the forces acting on the ulnar collateral ligament.

Right now it is  illegal to be used in a game, but nothing is stopping teams from using it during warm ups or bullpen sessions.

Brett Anderson touched 90 mph in a rehab start. He averaged 90 mph earlier in the season. An perpetually hurt Colorado pitcher who has diminished velocity…. I’ll pass.

CC Sabathia is up to his 2013 fastball velocity

He was charged with five runs (three earned) on five hits. Sabathia struck out two, walked one and hit a batter. His fastball sat at 90-91 mph and he reached 94 mph in the first inning.

… which helped him post a 4.78 ERA.

Nolan Arenado will come off the DL sometime today.

• Cleveland believes Justin Masterson is healthy after stating recently he was not healthy. Instead, Masterson’s issue is just control.

The results on the mound have been rough of late for sinkerballer Justin Masterson, but the Indians are convinced that the starter is healthy.

“I think he actually feels OK,” Indians manager Terry Francona said on Wednesday. “I think it’s some command that he’s going to have to fight through. I think he physically feels pretty good. … I think he’s open to working with [pitching coach Mickey Callaway] a lot. That’s good. We’ll fight through it together.”

“It’s command,” Francona said. “There’s times right now where he’s throwing it and hoping it’ll have some natural movement that’ll get him out of a jam, as opposed to commanding. I think some of that is confidence. Some of that is repeating. Because, when he gets on a roll, we’ve all seen [how good he can be].”

Right Terry. Your pitcher has had a nagging knee injury since the season’s start. I am sure that hasn’t affected his control one bit.

• One player coming back from a minor league DL stint with a high upside is Danny Salazar. For owners in need of some help, here are some updates. His velocity is at 2014 levels (which is 2 mph less than 2013 levels)

He is not walking as many batters.

Salazar missed some time with a right triceps injury in the Minors, but he has been solid since coming off the disabled list. In his past four outings, the righty has posted a 3.47 ERA, 1.20 WHIP and registered 29 strikeouts against six walks in 23 1/3 innings. On Monday, Salazar struck out nine, walked one and gave up one run in 7 1/3 innings against Louisville.

He may fall on his face again, but at least he is rested from the injury and is getting his command back.

Joey Votto won’t likely be healthy for the rest of the season.

When the Reds gotJoey Votto back from the disabled list after he strained his left quadriceps near his knee, manager Bryan Price repeatedly noted he was aware the first baseman wouldn’t be 100 percent healthy — likely for the rest of the season.

The change can be seen with the power drop by comparing his pre-DL and post-DL numbers.

Before DL: .257/.410/.449, 6 HRs
Post DL .263/.374/.355, 0 HRs

I would expect the last line for the rest of the season. A person can check to see if he is possibly getting his power back by seeing if his ISO value is headed up on his daily graph.

• Nice read on medical process for drafted players with a focus on Brady Aiken.

Fastball Velocity Watch for Pitchers Returning From the DL

Tyler Skaggs’s average fastball velocity is fine.

Players on the DL

HURT (Hitter’s Under-performance from Recent Trauma) Rankings (introduction/explanation) :

Any player with a HURT value over 100 (red) has the traits of a batter playing through an injury.

Aaron Hill shows up on the list. Looking back, he missed 3 games in May for a sore shoulder. Before the injury he was hitting .269/.324/.431 and since then he is at .224/.240/.301. I would not be surprised one bit if that shoulder is still bothering him.

PAIN (Pitcher Abuse INdex) Rankings (introduction/explanation)

Any player with a PAIN value over 100 (red) has the traits of a pitcher likely to be hurt.

Comparing 2013 to 2014

Comparing April 2014 to May and June 2014

• On the 2013 to 2014 comparison, Tyson Ross is one of the few starters with a PAIN score over 100 not to go on the DL so far this season. His PAIN score is a little skewed because he would expect a velocity drop from 2013 when he was a reliever. The main issue I have with him is the 40% slider usage. Sliders increase a player’s chance of injury 10% points. With Ross’s past injuries, it will be interesting to see if he can make through the season.

Travis Wood shows up on the April and May vs June and July list. His velocity is down, but it has seen similar decreases over the past year and half.

His Zone% on the other hand is taking a dive he has not seen before.

Definitely a pitcher to keep an eye on the rest of the season.

Players on the DL

(*) 15 Day Disabled List
(**) 60 Day Disabled List
(***) 7 Day Concussion List
(****) Free Agent
Red colored entries are updates since last report.

Major League Report

On DL

Minor League Report





Jeff, one of the authors of the fantasy baseball guide,The Process, writes for RotoGraphs, The Hardball Times, Rotowire, Baseball America, and BaseballHQ. He has been nominated for two SABR Analytics Research Award for Contemporary Analysis and won it in 2013 in tandem with Bill Petti. He has won four FSWA Awards including on for his Mining the News series. He's won Tout Wars three times, LABR twice, and got his first NFBC Main Event win in 2021. Follow him on Twitter @jeffwzimmerman.

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Jolly Good Show
9 years ago

Great stuff as usual Jeff.