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	<title>Comments on: M&#8217;s Snag 1B/DH Garko</title>
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		<title>By: joethewest</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/ms-snag-1bdh-garko/#comment-9820</link>
		<dc:creator>joethewest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 03:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also like the fact that if Garko does happen to improve, however significantly, we can still offer him arbitration for two years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also like the fact that if Garko does happen to improve, however significantly, we can still offer him arbitration for two years.</p>
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		<title>By: David MVP Eckstein</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/ms-snag-1bdh-garko/#comment-9679</link>
		<dc:creator>David MVP Eckstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe closer to to .5 war than 1 war if he&#039;s going to platoon at DH...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe closer to to .5 war than 1 war if he&#8217;s going to platoon at DH&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once interesting aspect of Garko for Fantasy players: he said &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/thehotstoneleague/2010953674_garko_its_pretty_obvious_im_he.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in an interview&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; that Zduriencik envisioned him as also having a role as a &quot;third catcher&quot; and 
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he&#039;s coming to spring training prepared to work on his catching skills. It&#039;s a position he&#039;s pretty much dropped the last couple of years after the Indians converted him to first base in 2005.

&quot;I caught all the way to Triple-A, and really would have kept doing it except Victor Martinez signed a five-year deal (with the Indians),&#039;&#039; he said. &quot;I felt it (switching positions) was my best path to the big leagues. It&#039;s there. Jack and I talked about it. Just in terms of giving Don the opportunity to make moves in games, it&#039;s important for us to have that third catcher. It just gives us more versatility and I think it can help the team.&quot;
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Now, that may be all hot air in the usual &quot;will show up at spring training in the best shape of his career&quot; and pitchers who pick up &quot;a new pitch&quot; or hitters that made &quot;that little adjustment&quot; in the offseason.  Players always say they&#039;ll do anything to make the team, and the Mariners clearly see Garko as a RH 1B/DH platoon with just an interesting little something extra.  (Though it should be noted that there were enough questions about Rob Johnson&#039;s recovery from off-season surgery on both hips and &quot;catcher of the future&quot; Adam Moore&#039;s development that the M&#039;s earlier gave out a NRI to Josh Bard).  Even if Garko genuinely spends a big chunk of ST behind the plate getting the rust off, there&#039;s no certainty he&#039;ll be there for even one inning in the regular season. 

But if he does serve a handful of games there, it changes his value for fantasy players.  Granted, he&#039;s a platoon player who won&#039;t get a huge number of ABs, but that&#039;s a lot more interesting if he becomes catcher eligible during the season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once interesting aspect of Garko for Fantasy players: he said <b><a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/thehotstoneleague/2010953674_garko_its_pretty_obvious_im_he.html" rel="nofollow">in an interview</a></b> that Zduriencik envisioned him as also having a role as a &#8220;third catcher&#8221; and </p>
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he&#8217;s coming to spring training prepared to work on his catching skills. It&#8217;s a position he&#8217;s pretty much dropped the last couple of years after the Indians converted him to first base in 2005.</p>
<p>&#8220;I caught all the way to Triple-A, and really would have kept doing it except Victor Martinez signed a five-year deal (with the Indians),&#8221; he said. &#8220;I felt it (switching positions) was my best path to the big leagues. It&#8217;s there. Jack and I talked about it. Just in terms of giving Don the opportunity to make moves in games, it&#8217;s important for us to have that third catcher. It just gives us more versatility and I think it can help the team.&#8221;
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<p>Now, that may be all hot air in the usual &#8220;will show up at spring training in the best shape of his career&#8221; and pitchers who pick up &#8220;a new pitch&#8221; or hitters that made &#8220;that little adjustment&#8221; in the offseason.  Players always say they&#8217;ll do anything to make the team, and the Mariners clearly see Garko as a RH 1B/DH platoon with just an interesting little something extra.  (Though it should be noted that there were enough questions about Rob Johnson&#8217;s recovery from off-season surgery on both hips and &#8220;catcher of the future&#8221; Adam Moore&#8217;s development that the M&#8217;s earlier gave out a NRI to Josh Bard).  Even if Garko genuinely spends a big chunk of ST behind the plate getting the rust off, there&#8217;s no certainty he&#8217;ll be there for even one inning in the regular season. </p>
<p>But if he does serve a handful of games there, it changes his value for fantasy players.  Granted, he&#8217;s a platoon player who won&#8217;t get a huge number of ABs, but that&#8217;s a lot more interesting if he becomes catcher eligible during the season.</p>
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		<title>By: MC</title>
		<link>http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/ms-snag-1bdh-garko/#comment-9668</link>
		<dc:creator>MC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Garko for $500K?  That&#039;s dirt cheap.

The other signing which I think is incredible despite it not getting any press is the A&#039;s signing of Gabe Gross for around the same price.  I&#039;m just amazed that there&#039;s no interest in these guys to the point where they can be had for almost the league minimum.  I mean, Gross is a very good player, especially defensively, he&#039;s tough as nails.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garko for $500K?  That&#8217;s dirt cheap.</p>
<p>The other signing which I think is incredible despite it not getting any press is the A&#8217;s signing of Gabe Gross for around the same price.  I&#8217;m just amazed that there&#8217;s no interest in these guys to the point where they can be had for almost the league minimum.  I mean, Gross is a very good player, especially defensively, he&#8217;s tough as nails.</p>
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		<title>By: David MVP Eckstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>David MVP Eckstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good work D.G. Let me add a little bit to the analysis, taken from
http://gameofinches.blogspot.com/2010/02/garko-finds-home.html

...The second reason I like this move is that the Mariners bought low on a quality offensive player. Despite the &quot;down years&quot; in 2008 and 2009 which made 2006 and 2007 seem like a fluke, it was bad luck which largely masked the fact that Garko&#039;s skills improved last season. Whereas Garko struck out 20% of the time and walked approximately 6.5% of the time from 2006-2007, Garko posted a 7.3% BB% and 14.1% K% last season. The strikeout rate has come down every season since 2006. Garko&#039;s power was down a bit last season (.153 ISO) compared to 2006 (.178 ISO) and 2007 (.194 ISO), but it bounced back from a low .131 mark in 2008 and was a robust .180 on the Indians before he was traded to the Giants a few days before the trade deadline. It is easy to forget that Ryan Garko posted a sexy .361 wOBA with the Indians last season. It was only when Garko was shipped away to San Francisco that things turned sour -- and you can blame most of that on a .243 BABIP across 127 very limited PAs.

Despite all the bad press stemming from his boring overall .268/.344/.421 (.765 OPS) triple slash line from last season, Garko was still 7% better than the league average player offensively. True, the average MLB first baseman hit .277/.362/.483 (.845 OPS) in 2009, but Garko was also hindered by a cumulative .282 BABIP (.304 xBABIP, according to THT&#039;s xBABIP calculator calculator). If we adjust Garko&#039;s BABIP to match his xBABIP and assume all of his additional hits would have been singles, Garko&#039;s 2009 expected triple slash line would have been a very respectable .288/.362/.441 (.803 OPS). CHONE projections peg Garko as a +8 run bat and -2 run glove per 150 games next year. Combined this with a -12.5 positional and +20.0 replacement adjustment, and you&#039;ve got a decent +1 to +1.5 WAR bat at your disposal. Obviously, Garko won&#039;t see 150 games in a platoon, but he also won&#039;t see a lot of righties, so let&#039;s just say he&#039;s a +1 WAR player next season. Pair this with a league average glove and a salary which is less than 20% of that of Aubrey Huff, and Jack Z&#039;s got a bargain on his hands (+1 WAR has cost approximately $3.7 million in free agency dollars this offseason).

By contrast, by the way, CHONE projects Aubrey Huff as a +1 run bat and -1 run bat per 150 games. Factor in the positional (-12.5) and replacement (+20.0) adjustments, and you&#039;ve got yourself a +0.5 WAR player. Makes you wonder what Brian Sabean is doing out there in San Fran.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good work D.G. Let me add a little bit to the analysis, taken from<br />
<a href="http://gameofinches.blogspot.com/2010/02/garko-finds-home.html" rel="nofollow">http://gameofinches.blogspot.com/2010/02/garko-finds-home.html</a></p>
<p>&#8230;The second reason I like this move is that the Mariners bought low on a quality offensive player. Despite the &#8220;down years&#8221; in 2008 and 2009 which made 2006 and 2007 seem like a fluke, it was bad luck which largely masked the fact that Garko&#8217;s skills improved last season. Whereas Garko struck out 20% of the time and walked approximately 6.5% of the time from 2006-2007, Garko posted a 7.3% BB% and 14.1% K% last season. The strikeout rate has come down every season since 2006. Garko&#8217;s power was down a bit last season (.153 ISO) compared to 2006 (.178 ISO) and 2007 (.194 ISO), but it bounced back from a low .131 mark in 2008 and was a robust .180 on the Indians before he was traded to the Giants a few days before the trade deadline. It is easy to forget that Ryan Garko posted a sexy .361 wOBA with the Indians last season. It was only when Garko was shipped away to San Francisco that things turned sour &#8212; and you can blame most of that on a .243 BABIP across 127 very limited PAs.</p>
<p>Despite all the bad press stemming from his boring overall .268/.344/.421 (.765 OPS) triple slash line from last season, Garko was still 7% better than the league average player offensively. True, the average MLB first baseman hit .277/.362/.483 (.845 OPS) in 2009, but Garko was also hindered by a cumulative .282 BABIP (.304 xBABIP, according to THT&#8217;s xBABIP calculator calculator). If we adjust Garko&#8217;s BABIP to match his xBABIP and assume all of his additional hits would have been singles, Garko&#8217;s 2009 expected triple slash line would have been a very respectable .288/.362/.441 (.803 OPS). CHONE projections peg Garko as a +8 run bat and -2 run glove per 150 games next year. Combined this with a -12.5 positional and +20.0 replacement adjustment, and you&#8217;ve got a decent +1 to +1.5 WAR bat at your disposal. Obviously, Garko won&#8217;t see 150 games in a platoon, but he also won&#8217;t see a lot of righties, so let&#8217;s just say he&#8217;s a +1 WAR player next season. Pair this with a league average glove and a salary which is less than 20% of that of Aubrey Huff, and Jack Z&#8217;s got a bargain on his hands (+1 WAR has cost approximately $3.7 million in free agency dollars this offseason).</p>
<p>By contrast, by the way, CHONE projects Aubrey Huff as a +1 run bat and -1 run bat per 150 games. Factor in the positional (-12.5) and replacement (+20.0) adjustments, and you&#8217;ve got yourself a +0.5 WAR player. Makes you wonder what Brian Sabean is doing out there in San Fran.</p>
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