Starting Pitcher Ranks: RotoGraphs Consensus

Consensus Ranks: OF, C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, and RP and SP.

Tiered Ranks: C, 1B, 2B, SS, 3B, NL OF, AL SP, NL SP, Holds.

Matt Moore. Yes, he’s not in here. We’ve been over it. He’s not a starter yet, even though he’ll be a starter later, and so he’s not in there right now. But you know what, we ranked him in our mind pieces, and we got around a 28 all together. So that puts him ahead of Shaun Marcum and Brandon Morrow on the rankings, and given some uncertainty about his innings (and performance, as much as is the case with any young player) this year, that might be around right. That said, I have no such reservations about his innings, since he managed over 180 last year and could do a full slate this year without bumping up 20%.

The rest of the list? Maybe you like Felix Hernandez more, or Zack Greinke. Or Dan Hudson gets your panties in or out of a bundle. Brandon McCarthy spoke today at the SABR analytics conference and some of you were giving him the stank eye, maybe. I loved Derek Holland last year, but now I’m the one that hates him. I hate Johan Santana more than most non-Mets fans, and I like Tim Stauffer more than most Padres fans perhaps. But maybe no-one caused more consternation than Josh Collmenter — do you believe in deception or not?

And, before you get too upset about the rankings at the bottom, know this: by the time you get down there, it’s all approximation. Treat that as a list of pitchers we like in deep leagues. It’s better than assuming that we really think that Jerome Williams is demonstrably better that Jorge De La Rosa.


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Roy Halladay 1 1 3 2 1 view
Cliff Lee 4 3 1 1 2 view
Clayton Kershaw 2 2 4 3 3 view
Justin Verlander 3 4 2 4 4 view
Zack Greinke 11 5 5 6 5 view
Felix Hernandez 5 10 7 7 6 view
Tim Lincecum 7 7 6 12 7 view
Jered Weaver 6 11 12 5 8 view
Cole Hamels 12 8 8 8 9 view
CC Sabathia 8 6 13 10 10 view
Dan Haren 9 9 9 15 11 view
James Shields 19 13 11 11 12 view
David Price 10 18 15 13 13 view
Jon Lester 14 12 18 18 14 view
Stephen Strasburg 18 14 16 16 15 view
Matt Cain 13 15 28 9 16 view
Yovani Gallardo 17 17 10 31 17 view
Mat Latos 15 23 14 26 18 view
Adam Wainwright 20 16 26 19 19 view
Madison Bumgarner 21 21 24 17 20 view
Ian Kennedy 23 29 21 14 21 view
Michael Pineda 24 19 19 34 22 view
Brandon Beachy 25 22 17 33 23 view
Josh Johnson 30 20 35 21 24 view
Daniel Hudson 16 38 25 29 25 view
Matt Garza 27 27 22 38 26 view
Yu Darvish 22 25 31 42 27 view
Cory Luebke 28 30 43 20 28 view
Chris Carpenter 29 24 40 28 28 view
C.J. Wilson 26 37 38 22 29 view
Josh Beckett 32 26 36 32 30 view
Shaun Marcum 34 28 47 27 31 view
Gio Gonzalez 39 45 29 25 32 view
Tommy Hanson 31 39 39 35 33 view
Max Scherzer 42 36 23 45 34 view
Brandon Morrow 52 31 20 49 35 view
Anibal Sanchez 41 35 32 44 35 view
Jordan Zimmermann 40 42 44 36 36 view
Ricky Romero 36 53 50 24 37 view
Jaime Garcia 37 32 55 40 38 view
Ubaldo Jimenez 33 47 33 56 39 view
Colby Lewis 46 33 27 65 40 view
Ted Lilly 45 34 46 52 41 view
Tim Hudson 35 43 74 30 42 view
Scott Baker 51 41 52 41 43 view
Wandy Rodriguez 43 48 45 51 44 view
Jeremy Hellickson 38 40 73 37 45 view
Doug Fister 47 64 59 23 46 view
Derek Holland 60 49 49 43 47 view
Ervin Santana 48 52 51 50 47 view
Johnny Cueto 49 50 66 39 48 view
Gavin Floyd 50 55 48 53 49 view
Brandon McCarthy 44 60 63 48 50 view
Hiroki Kuroda 54 44 60 60 51 view
Bud Norris 63 59 42 57 52 view
Justin Masterson 61 61 58 46 53 view
John Danks 56 54 53 68 54 view
Ricky Nolasco 64 63 37 78 55 view
Jhoulys Chacin 53 71 61 59 56 view
Mike Minor 57 46 64 79 57 view
Ryan Dempster 68 58 41 80 58 view
Johan Santana 71 51 83 61 59 view
Tim Stauffer 55 78 78 55 59 view
Vance Worley 79 80 67 47 60 view
R.A. Dickey 62 57 82 74 61 view
Chad Billingsley 65 75 57 83 62 view
Jonathon Niese 74 56 56 95 63 view
Mike Leake 75 79 72 66 64 view
Clay Buchholz 59 76 104 58 65 view
Chris Capuano 78 65 62 93 66 view
Edwin Jackson 76 89 54 81 67 view
Mark Buehrle 70 74 96 62 68 view
Francisco Liriano 83 84 68 69 69 view
Juan Nicasio 58 68 92 88 70 view
Trevor Cahill 72 81 88 72 71 view
Homer Bailey 81 62 71 103 72 view
Jake Peavy 77 67 69 111 73 view
Ryan Vogelsong 80 99 86 67 74 view
Tom Milone 96 73 75 94 75 view
Philip Humber 102 72 90 75 76 view
Henderson Alvarez 84 69 102 86 77 view
Jair Jurrjens 66 86 125 71 78 view
Felipe Paulino 104 82 65 101 79 view
Randy Wolf 100 85 85 82 79 view
Erik Bedard 82 66 79 126 80 view
Josh Collmenter 89 116 99 54 81 view
A.J. Burnett 92 87 70 110 82 view
Matt Harrison 98 96 106 63 83 view
Jason Vargas 99 101 94 70 84 view
Luke Hochevar 87 104 91 89 85 view
Phil Hughes 85 106 87 96 86 view
Carl Pavano 94 90 95 98 87 view
Josh Tomlin 111 93 103 76 88 view
Ivan Nova 88 98 126 73 89 view
Chris Narveson 110 91 84 107 90 view
Edinson Volquez 86 92 109 105 90 view
Aaron Harang 95 102 89 113 91 view
Jonathan Sanchez 101 105 80 114 92 view
James McDonald 123 110 76 92 93 view
Kevin Slowey 112 88 98 118 94 view
Carlos Zambrano 93 111 101 112 95 view
Jeff Niemann 103 77 93 96 view
Brett Cecil 118 103 117 90 97 view
Tsuyoshi Wada 105 127 97 100 98 view
Roy Oswalt 69 77 137 99 view
Jeremy Guthrie 135 122 100 77 99 view
Rick Porcello 108 109 113 106 100 view
Travis Wood 116 133 81 108 101 view
Brett Myers 67 70 102 view
Derek Lowe 109 97 107 134 103 view
Kyle Lohse 125 113 127 85 104 view
Danny Duffy 115 94 114 130 105 view
Bartolo Colon 119 95 121 119 106 view
Zach Britton 107 129 128 91 107 view
Jarrod Parker 90 118 141 109 108 view
Bronson Arroyo 126 83 111 143 109 view
Drew Pomeranz 106 121 134 104 110 view
Bruce Chen 117 130 135 87 111 view
Jeff Karstens 129 148 110 84 112 view
Dillon Gee 121 119 116 117 113 view
Javier Vazquez 139 34 114 view
Joe Blanton 136 120 105 122 115 view
Chris Volstad 100 112 121 116 view
Hisashi Iwakuma 128 114 119 129 117 view
Clayton Richard 138 126 132 97 118 view
Randy Wells 134 132 115 120 119 view
Paul Maholm 108 123 125 120 view
Julio Teheran 91 117 121 view
Jordan Lyles 133 134 122 123 122 view
Brian Matusz 97 135 138 145 123 view
Wade Davis 147 118 99 123 view
Wei-Yin Chen 142 115 120 142 124 view
Jason Hammel 124 108 140 125 view
Alexi Ogando 73 126 view
John Lannan 123 147 115 127 view
Barry Zito 120 146 140 131 128 view
Charlie Morton 149 128 136 124 128 view
Jake Arrieta 125 137 127 129 view
Mike Pelfrey 124 133 133 130 view
Brad Peacock 132 112 131 view
Blake Beavan 122 143 142 139 131 view
Chien-Ming Wang 145 149 102 132 view
Guillermo Moscoso 131 116 133 view
Randall Delgado 113 136 134 view
J.A. Happ 144 124 132 134 view
Dallas Braden 127 129 135 view
Joe Saunders 107 136 view
Dustin Moseley 140 145 128 137 view
Kevin Correia 149 130 135 138 view
Brett Anderson 114 139 view
Jacob Turner 131 148 144 140 view
Jake Westbrook 144 144 138 141 view
Nick Blackburn 137 146 146 142 view
Freddy Garcia 139 139 142 view
Tyler Skaggs 130 143 view
Alex White 145 136 143 view
Jerome Williams 131 144 view
Jorge De La Rosa 141 141 144 view
Ross Detwiler 137 151 145 view
Chris Tillman 138 146 view
Fausto Carmona 146 143 146 view
Nathan Eovaldi 140 147 view
Jason Marquis 150 141 147 view
Kevin Millwood 142 148 view
Dustin McGowan 143 149 view
Charlie Furbush 147 150 view
Kyle Drabek 148 151 view
Tyler Chatwood 150 152 view
Livan Hernandez 150 152 view

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  1. KCExile says:

    Thanks folks. I love the attitude in the intro. Seems everyone’s got a little spunk this Friday.

    Interesting to note the spread on Morrow. I understand why some are high and why some are low on him (and Scherzer). Not so sure why there’s such disagreement on Colby Lewis. Zimmerman do you think his HR rate last year was a fluke?

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  2. Eminor3rd says:

    I think I did great in my first Ottoneu draft on Greinke at $29, but perhaps a bit drunk on Ubaldo at $23. Maybe $2 Colby will put on the positive end.

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  3. Steve Balboni says:

    Is Podhorzer dumber’n a bucket of door knobs for placing Randall Delgado ahead of Ross Detwiler?!

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  4. Adam says:

    Not much love for Jordan Zimm. Interesting, he seems to be shooting up boards everywhere else I have seen.

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    • Eno Sarris says:

      The weird thing about him is that he came back from TJ and instead of having control problems like most people, he lost swinging-strike stuff. Will he get it back? seems he lost a little movement. Makes me nervous.

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      • Adam says:

        Yeah… Definitely wasn’t what you would expect. He has a history of much higher k rates than last year, I think he is a solid bet to improve the strikeout rate this year. IIRC he started out the year striking out nobody but was getting a lot more as the year went on and at the end.

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    • Jeff Zimmerman says:

      One Issue with my automated ranking system is The Fans only have him at 160 IP. His rates should put him higher if he was near 200 IP

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  5. jon says:

    The ties are messing up the consensus rankings a little bit. You have people ranked 28 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 35 36 etc…

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  6. Shauntell says:

    So where would you put guys like Bard & Sale?

    I know it’s hard to project these guys, but it’d be nice to know what Rotographs thinks of them as well…

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    • Eno Sarris says:

      They’re in the reliever rankings and they will also be in the tiers that are coming out as we speak. It’s not that we didn’t tackle them, it’s that this tool did not allow us to rank them.

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      • taprat says:

        Then, for the love of all that is obvious, tell us where in the rankings you think they belong. They should be ranked with the starters. If the “tool” prevents them from being in the rankings, you should tell us in the intro where you think they should fall. If it isn’t part of the intro, it should be one of your very first comments. Blaming this gap – Sale, Bard and Feliz – on the “tool” is ridiculous. Nobody here cares what rules fantasy pros’ ranking tool forces you to adhere to, I don’t think. It’s a small deal in the grand scheme of things, but it really is frustrating. Why should the “tool” prevent you from giving us your opinion on where these three fall?

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      • game6ers says:

        taprat, just formulate your own opinion on these three players. be nice to fantasy writers who give you this stuff for free.

        eno already wrote a piece on Bard, Sale and Feliz. I took Sale in an auction for $3 as my 5th starter and am pleased as pie.

        I’m also fairly sure that Bard will be in the pen this year, and Feliz has had some shoulder problems. Sale is my favorite of the bunch, which is why I took him.

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  7. j-bones says:

    Luis Mendoza with another good outing today, 7 Ks too. Is he rosterable?

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  8. Don says:

    I am really curious what Andy Pettite coming out of retirement will mean. Once he finishes his baseball workouts,, and gets some starts under his belt. He might be a bit of a sleeper, if he can regain his form of two years ago. Either way it is still good to see him in pinstripes again

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    • dscott says:

      If i was a real GM i would say he might have some value. I just don’t see it from a fantasy perspective. I would expect something like a 4.00-4.20 ERA, around a 6K/9 which is not good and around a 1.40 whip and that’s just being optimistic since he’s missed an entire year and he’s not getting any younger.

      You can argue that his 2010 numbers were all better than that, but i would like you to look at his numbers between 2007-2009 as a better indicator for what we can expect. All that being said, wait and see if he ever gets a call up to waste a waiver pick up on him.

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  9. JDanger says:

    Has Eno written his opinion on Zack Greinke at all? Ranking him 11th, while the others went 5 and 6 really jumped out at me. What gives, Eno?

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    • Eno Sarris says:

      It’s strange, I saw that and didn’t comment because I don’t hate Greinke at all. I love him. I’ll probably draft him a ton because I don’t get the top top guys because I wait on pitching. Maybe the difference between five and ten is not a whole lot. I jut couldn’t put him above some of the guys that are above him in my rankings. Felix? really? My projections for Greinke are nice — 3.50/1.15 14 wins, 201 strikeouts.

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  10. herve houchoua says:

    super !

    en France vos projections sont tres suivies .

    merci

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  11. Keystone Heavy says:

    Felipe Paulino! Dis ma boy righ her! One of these day,-ONE OF THESE DAYS- the bips are going to find the defenders. ANd when that day comes, I’ll be there with the 250th pick in the draft laughing in my opponent’s face.

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  12. Kyle says:

    Michael Pineda going from a pitcher’s paradise to a sandbox playing for the Yankees somehow gets him ranked higher than Beckett? One guy has been one of the best pitchers aside from 2010 since he’s been in the league, had an ERA of almost a run lower, much better WHIP, and has been known as a clutch player before recently.

    So Pineda and his 3.74 ERA, 18 homeruns given up in 170 innings, and his struggling velocity will somehow be that much better than Doug Fister who proved last year with a playoff team that he could pitch. He’s not the Mariner who was traded to a contender and made his season at home(not in New York)with an ERA of 4.40 on the road while allowing far more flyballs that will lefties will feast on with the short porch in leftfield.

    I’d take guys who have proven stuff for years and or secondary pitches that are elite especially when Pineda doesn’t seem to have that mean velocity like he used to. Second years are usually tough on pitchers too… those guys are the experts.

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  13. Travis says:

    James Shields is just not that good. I like Eno’s list best, and disagree with Zach’s (YU!)

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