Updated Consensus Ranks: Shortstop

Should you short stop or just stop short? This year the position feels like it’s an injury magnet, even if the evidence doesn’t necessarily point to shortstops being injured more often.

But there you have Hanley Ramirez, Jose Reyes and Derek Jeter dropping because of injury. That’s allowed players that are not even performing well — Asdrubal Cabrera, I’m looking at you — to move up just because they didn’t go down with an ailment. Health is a thing. Troy Tulowitzki always had number one talent, and his health makes him number one now.

That isn’t to say that there aren’t any superlative performances that have pushed the needle. Ian Desmond is proving last year was no fluke, Josh Rutledge has shown enough power and speed for most of us to believe, and Jean Segura — though not a 25 homer hitting shortstop — has exceeded even our semi-lofty expectations. Maybe Andrelton Simmons will be next.

The top 12 is an argument against positional scarcity. Number ten should still be an asset in all five categories. But get down into the high teens and low twenties — where you only-leaguers with MI slots are hanging out — and it gets dicey. Ruben Tejada! Cliff Pennington! Zack Cozart!

Good luck.

With the color-coding we hope to highlight the biggest movers. That definition changes as you follow the ranks down the list — players had to move more to register a color change as you near the bottom of the list. These are rest-of-season rankings for 5×5 roto.


RG   JZ ES MP ZS
1 Troy Tulowitzki 2 1 1 1
2 Starlin Castro 1 2 2 3
3 Ian Desmond 5 3 4 2
4 Ben Zobrist 4 5 3 4
5 Elvis Andrus 6 6 6 5
6 Asdrubal Cabrera 9 8 8 9
7 Martin Prado 8 12 9 6
8 Alcides Escobar 7 7 14 7
9 Josh Rutledge 3 4 10 19
10 Jimmy Rollins 10 11 5 11
11 Jean Segura 12 9 7 12
12 Hanley Ramirez 11 10 15 16
13 Alexei Ramirez 14 16 12 13
14 Erick Aybar 16 14 18 10
15 Jose Reyes 13 13 16 17
16 Andrelton Simmons 17 18 17 18
17 Dee Gordon 23 17 11 20
18 J.J. Hardy 19 19 20 14
19 Everth Cabrera 20 15 19 22
20 Jhonny Peralta 21 21 21 15
21 Jed Lowrie 38 22 13 8
22 Danny Espinosa 18 20 24 21
23 Zack Cozart 22 24 22 26
24 Derek Jeter 15 25 26 40
25 Yunel Escobar 30 26 27 25
26 Didi Gregorius 36 23 25 27
27 Ruben Tejada 29 31 35 23
28 Cliff Pennington 28 27 34 30
29 Mike Aviles 27 29 28 37
30 Brandon Crawford 42 28 29 24
31 Stephen Drew 40 30 23 31
32 Maicer Izturis 43 32 30 29
33 Munenori Kawasaki 26 41 32 41
34 Jamey Carroll 34 36 37 36
35 Adeiny Hechavarria 39 35 33 38
36 Tyler Greene 32 34 38 41
37 Brian Dozier 41 33 31 41
38 Billy Hamilton 41 37 39 32
39 Marwin Gonzalez 41 39 40 34
40 Nick Franklin 41 40 41 33
41 Clint Barmes 41 38 36 41

These players appeared on one ranker’s list: Jurickson Profar, Leury Garcia, Alen Hanson, Pedro Ciriaco, Josh Prince, Eduardo Nunez, Rafael Furcal, Sean Rodriguez, Pete Kozma, and Hiroyuki Nakajima.




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  1. wynams says:

    You would rather have Rutledge than Segura?

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    • Eno Sarris says:

      Speaking for myself, yes. I don’t believe in Segura’s early power, and it’s not like he doesn’t have the same sort of approach as Rutledge at the plate. And Colorado>Milwaukee for hitters.

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      • wily mo says:

        i don’t necessarily believe in all of the early power either. but i do believe in the speed and the general Thwack, if you know what i mean. and those two things are a lot

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      • Stefan says:

        Segura’s average FB/HR distance is 299 feet, 46th in the league. Most of his HRs have been deep right center (angle is 11.36, other RHB with similiar RC angles and more than 5 HRs are Braun, Miggy,Trout) . The power is looking real. I think he’s a 20 HR guy playing in MIL.

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      • Beau says:

        You realize Scutaro plays 2nd right…

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      • batpig says:

        You don’t have to believe Segura is a 20+ HR hitter to realize he’s a better fantasy option than Alcides Escobar. Even if he’s a 10-15 HR guy “true talent” that still elevates him above Escobar and Andrus too IMO.

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      • Paul says:

        How about Andrus? He’s not a top 5 SS.

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      • eliasll says:

        Even if Segura hits 7-10HR the rest of the way, he is more valuable than every SS ranked 5th-10th. He will hit .280+ with 30SB (at least) 60-50 R-RBI.
        I don’t get the love for Andrus in everyone’s rankings. He will never hit .300 or hit 10HR. He would need to steal 60+ to deserve a top5 ranking

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      • eliasll says:

        I would rank Khalil Greene higher than Andrus

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      • Ruki Motomiya says:

        I hear Colorado Springs > Milwaukee for hitters, too.

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      • nilbog44 says:

        I’m sorry but that just seems ridiculous

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    • wily mo says:

      to be fair, only two of them would. but those two would also rather have rutledge than zobrist or andrus, so.

      personally i’d be giving segura the 3s and 4s at this point, but who am i

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      • STEALTH says:

        You’re Wily effin Mo. Don’t back down. Segura deserves those 3s and 4s more than Rutledge does. Jean’s power may be less HR power and more doubles and triples power going forward, but I don’t see Rutledge beating Segura anywhere except HRs in RoS stats, and Segura’s going to demolish Rutledge in the SB and AVG/OBP categories.

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    • J says:

      No way! No way! Segura is the real deal. I’m sure they’ll fix their mistake and put him in the top 5 by July. My suggestion, move him back down later, if he regresses, but he deserves to be higher. Like me, I want to be higher now!

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  2. Mix says:

    Love this series.

    Why the wide spread on Jed Lowrie? Because of the injury history? I’m also wondering about Josh Rutledge’s spread.

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    • dragnalus says:

      If Lowrie is low because of injury history, I find that suprising considering Eno wrote a piece just a couple of weeks ago explaining that many of Lowrie’s injuries were the result of one-time incidents and not likely to have lingering effects or repeat themselves.

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    • J says:

      Looks like ZM is the one that is a little off. I’d be interested to see a new list excluding ZM in the voting. Seams like it would be more accurate.

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  3. JMH says:

    Seems like there was a lot of disagreement on Lowrie. 38, 22, 15 and 8.

    And why is Simmons a Top 20 SS? He has now attempted only 3 SB in over 300 AB.

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  4. Matthew says:

    Obviously Reyes isn’t going to put up the season numbers to be very high on the list, but will he be worth it have the second half of the season when I already have Segura? I’d rather just trade Reyes for something else if not.

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  5. Jeff says:

    I also love the series. I wait until I can read carefully to enjoy. Would love to see someone write up Alcides, who seems to have risen in most opinions this year.

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  6. marlins12 says:

    Jed Lowrie is underrated.

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  7. Chip says:

    Colorado may be better than the brewers line up, but Jean Segura will hit around .300 hits 2nd in the lineup with good run potential, and has 40-50 steal potential, Rutledge has maybe .280-.290 potential…maybe, is constantly shuffled around in the lineup most of the time hitting 8th has 15 homer potential and maybe 15 steal potential…. there is absolutely no way I want Rutledge over Segura..none

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    • Kevin says:

      Rutledge’s ceiling is clearly higher than 15-15, which was his pace for last season (age 23), and ZIPS projects him for a final 18HR and 19SB. His current pace would give him 20-20. 15 and 15 might be a fair projection for what could happen this season, but given his age you would have to say his ceiling is much higher than that.

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      • Chip says:

        Haha…apparently not since he just got optioned to Triple-A. Rutledge is a good player but way overhyped by everyone it seems.

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  8. Chief Keef says:

    Starlin over Tulo in JZ’s list. I mean it must be the injury stuff but even if Tulo misses 40 games give me the awful replacement level SS over 40 and Tulo’s 120 over Castro’s full season, even in non-OBP leagues.

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    • batpig says:

      JZ just uses the raw ZiPS/Steamer projection and the playing time projection is therefore way low for Tulo.

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      • Toffer Peak says:

        With all due respect, JZ’s refusal to adjust for playing time as well as not accounting for replacement players (i.e even if Tulo is on the DL you still get a player to take his spot and accumulate some production) is either a lazy or ignorant approach to fantasy evaluation and is a disservice to the readers. This comes from someone who beleives that Zips/Streamer is probably a more accurate than any of the other three’s opinion, but you HAVE to adjust for playing time and replacement production.

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    • eliasll says:

      Castro is not top5. He is the worst base stealer on the list. He doesn’t even have the green light anymore (2 stolen bases last 56 games). I do think he will develop some pop later on, but as of now .290 10HR 17SB are not top5 numbers. Putting ahead of Tulo is insane.

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  9. Kevin says:

    So Dee Gordon and Everth Cabrera are similar players, but Cabrera has stuck in the majors and proven he can hit, at least enough to swipe an elite number of bags. Why Gordon>Cabrera then?

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    • Johnny Come Lately says:

      Did you see that monster HR Dee smacked the other day? He’s been hitting the gym!

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    • Eno Sarris says:

      We talked about this on the latest podcast. I admitted it was a bit of faith-based reasoning: We *know* Cabrera is a .250-.260 hitter. We don’t know what batting average Dee will put up, and I’m betting the minor power boost and better plate discipline stats this year will hold and produce a better batting average. But this is a legitimate complaint about my rankings, for sure.

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  10. Clint Robinson says:

    No Marco Scutaro an oversight? Where would he rank?

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  11. Schide says:

    Dang, guess now I gotta drop Segura and pick up Asdrubal in the league where’s he’s on the waiver wire for some reason. :)

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  12. Eddie says:

    Some sharp disagreement about where Rutledge belongs. What’s that all about?

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  13. 1990Jays says:

    i’ll take Jed Lowrie over anyone outside of the top 5, 21st is as absurd as it gets

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    • batpig says:

      He is an absolute zero in steals and his career AVG is .256. He’s basically JJ Hardy but with a worse health record. He’s basically only above average in one category (HR).

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  14. The Flaming FIPs says:

    I’m stuck with Rutledge in Hanley’s absence. I wonder if the dude in my league who owns Segura – who, so far, has basically been a shortstop version of 2011 Mike Trout – would swap him and Rutledge. Hahaha.

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  15. atoms says:

    How on *earth* is Elvis Andrus up so high? Sure, he’s one of the best shortstops in real life, maybe, but in fantasy? Why is a sub-.700 OPS with 25 steals, 5 HR, and 70 runs scored worthy of a top-5 ranking?

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    • Joe says:

      As an Andrus owner I agree. His lack of power is terribly frustrating. I’d be ecstatic if he could hit 10…

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    • l1ay says:

      You got a point that Andrus is constantly overrated for fantasy purposes.. but 70 R? He bats 2nd in what is still a pretty potent line-up, he hasn’t had less than 85 the last three seasons, and both ZiPs and Steamer have him at 85 and 87, respectively. Showing a little bias there?

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      • atoms says:

        Oh, no. Just a little mistake. Yeah, probably around 80-85 runs. I glanced at his predictions from ZiPS and Steamer, and instead of looking at the unified season scores, I combined one unified and one RoS to come up with my estimate. Still, he’s not a top 5 guy.

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  16. dirck says:

    The #38 ranking of Jed Lowrie by JZ is totally out of line .At 16 spots lower than the next lowest ranking ,it is the biggest discrepancy on the board.The second biggest difference is 13 spots for Maicer Izturis,also by JZ . I guess when JZ doesn’t like a guy ,he really doesn’t like him .

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  17. gryfyn1 says:

    Keep in mind Zimmerman;s projections aren’t really his own. They are simply based on Zips/Steamer RoS numbers. And projections assume that Lowrie will spend 2months on the DL this year and that Tulo will miss a month.

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    • dirck says:

      Seems like Lowrie is getting docked more for time he might miss than Jeter,Reyes,and Hanley are getting docked for time they have already missed and the additional time they will definitely miss .

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  18. Daniel says:

    Andrus seems like a poor man’s Segura to me.

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    • batpig says:

      Andrus is soooo overrated in fantasy. The only difference between him and Alcides Escobar is a few extra runs playing in that Texas lineup.

      I’d happily take Segura over both, similar overall profile but an extra 10 HR.

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  19. ebs38 says:

    N. Franklin…worthy 5×5 production in the 2nd half?

    or what im really asking is good keeper stash right now…

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  20. taprat says:

    Crawford seems low (as someone who in a deep league picked him up as Reyes replacement and has been pleasantly surprised).

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  21. Cliff says:

    Kinda funny that the #3 SS on ESPN is ranked 19th?? I’ve never been a huge Cabrera fan but I’ve gotta admit, I thought he would be in the top 8-10 without a doubt. I simply don’t see any substantial differences between him and Andrus, other than Andrus having a better average and maybe scoring a few more runs, but Cabrera would seem likely to make up for that and then some with his edge in SB. I just don’t see the difference…and in my opinion, to have Dee Gordon ahead of E-Cab is terrible. Not sure I totally understand that one given how small his sample size of any kind of success is right now.

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  22. Gregory says:

    Gregorius seems really low to me.

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  23. dscottncc says:

    Eduardo Nunez isn’t mentioned I see… I still think the dude puts up 20-30 steals this year once healthy.

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  24. fei says:

    Where would everyone rank gordon, crawford and drew on the list.

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  25. fei says:

    Is floridan a viable fantasy add in 14 team league?

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  26. Nick says:

    Any idea where Profar would rank now that he’s been called up?

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  27. Dan says:

    Eno is top flight. Thanks for everything.

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  28. jlr says:

    The Segura ranking is a clear miss. Glaring, obvious, no brainer, monkey business miss. If he finishes with 12 HR (5 more), 40 sb, a .300 avg, and 95 R, he’s easily top 6. And he will, conservatively.

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  29. Sam says:

    If someone offered me Drew for any of the four guys ranked above him, my hands would not be able to get to the keyboard fast enough.

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  30. Paul says:

    I’m another Lowrie supporter. I have Lowrie, Asdrubal, and Dee Gordon and I start Lowrie every time. He hits in the 2, 3, or 4 spot, he’s a switch hitter so he’s never a matchup liability, and he walks. Move him up!

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  31. Joe says:

    Martin Prado, Alcides Escobar and Josh Rutledge over Segura?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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  32. Ruki Motomiya says:

    Rutledge, 9th best SS…in AAA!

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