Comments on: The Projection Rundown: The Basics on Marcels, ZiPS, CAIRO, Oliver, and the Rest http://www.fangraphs.com/library/the-projection-rundown-the-basics-on-marcels-zips-cairo-oliver-and-the-rest/ Wed, 13 Mar 2013 03:51:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Ben http://www.fangraphs.com/library/the-projection-rundown-the-basics-on-marcels-zips-cairo-oliver-and-the-rest/#comment-5337 Ben Sat, 04 Jun 2011 12:03:07 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/library/?p=1095#comment-5337 Great article! Just one thing, in the Marcel section you accidentally wrote Tom Tiger instead of Tom Tango. Other than that, great job!

]]> By: domki na mazurach http://www.fangraphs.com/library/the-projection-rundown-the-basics-on-marcels-zips-cairo-oliver-and-the-rest/#comment-1547 domki na mazurach Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:11:24 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/library/?p=1095#comment-1547 Awesome!

]]> By: Will Larson http://www.fangraphs.com/library/the-projection-rundown-the-basics-on-marcels-zips-cairo-oliver-and-the-rest/#comment-1500 Will Larson Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:11:43 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/library/?p=1095#comment-1500 Shameless self-promotion: See my articles below

http://www.fangraphs.com/community/index.php/comparing-2010-pitcher-forecasts/

http://www.fangraphs.com/community/index.php/comparing-2010-hitter-forecasts-part-1-which-system-is-the-best/

http://www.fangraphs.com/community/index.php/comparing-2010-hitter-forecasts-part-2-creating-better-forecasts/

]]> By: reader http://www.fangraphs.com/library/the-projection-rundown-the-basics-on-marcels-zips-cairo-oliver-and-the-rest/#comment-1282 reader Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:24:53 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/library/?p=1095#comment-1282 Thanks — doesn’t sound like they’ll add much unique value, but it’s always nice to have more options.

]]> By: dREaDs Fan http://www.fangraphs.com/library/the-projection-rundown-the-basics-on-marcels-zips-cairo-oliver-and-the-rest/#comment-1245 dREaDs Fan Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:51:31 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/library/?p=1095#comment-1245 So is ZIPS the only one then that takes batted ball (e.g. BAPIP) and DIPS theory into account when projecting?

]]> By: Steve Slowinski http://www.fangraphs.com/library/the-projection-rundown-the-basics-on-marcels-zips-cairo-oliver-and-the-rest/#comment-1237 Steve Slowinski Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:48:08 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/library/?p=1095#comment-1237 Oh geez, I’d forgotten about them. Here’s a link to their full description: http://www.rotochamp.com/Help/ProjectionsFAQ.aspx

Basically, they don’t give out too many details on how they calculate their projections. All I got from that page was that they take a weighted average of a player’s performance over the past three years, try to adjust minor league stats for players with less than 400 major league PAs, and regress players based on their expected LD, GB, and FB rates.

]]> By: reader http://www.fangraphs.com/library/the-projection-rundown-the-basics-on-marcels-zips-cairo-oliver-and-the-rest/#comment-1236 reader Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:42:10 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/library/?p=1095#comment-1236 What’s the deal with the Rotochamp projections included on the projections page? How does that system stack up?

]]> By: Steve Slowinski http://www.fangraphs.com/library/the-projection-rundown-the-basics-on-marcels-zips-cairo-oliver-and-the-rest/#comment-1219 Steve Slowinski Thu, 17 Feb 2011 02:11:54 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/library/?p=1095#comment-1219 Thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed it.

Sean got snatched up by a team this off-season, so I believe the common assumption is they want him to keep data like that private. CHONE’s not available anywhere, pay or no pay, which makes me very, very sad.

That said, the other systems are still quite awesome. Marcels is good with established players, and the Oliver system is really the tops with the youngins.

]]> By: Justin http://www.fangraphs.com/library/the-projection-rundown-the-basics-on-marcels-zips-cairo-oliver-and-the-rest/#comment-1217 Justin Thu, 17 Feb 2011 01:53:02 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/library/?p=1095#comment-1217 Wonderful article Steve! Why isn’t CHONE available anymore? Does Sean charge for it?

]]> By: ectomobile http://www.fangraphs.com/library/the-projection-rundown-the-basics-on-marcels-zips-cairo-oliver-and-the-rest/#comment-1205 ectomobile Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:48:32 +0000 http://www.fangraphs.com/library/?p=1095#comment-1205 Great article – thanks Steve!

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