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  1. Jameson is the clearest writer of any of those people you name dropped.
    Zizek is not “earlier” than either Badiou or Agamben and he’s certainly not passe in North American cultural theory. In many ways the North Americans still haven’t caught with him.
    Your attempt at making academics look pretentious comes off as very…pretentious.

    Comment by Ben — October 17, 2011 @ 12:30 pm

  2. could there be three sweeter words?

    Call for papers

    I think not

    Comment by Tom — October 17, 2011 @ 12:43 pm

  3. Thanks for the comment, Ben, but I think you may be taking this whole thing a bit too seriously. Anyhoo…

    Whether or not his work came before or after, it is my (non-specialist) impression from those who do work in the field that the North American reception of Zizek started before Agamben and Badiou, but I am willing to accept correction on this score.

    As for being “passé,” that was a comment on the generally fad-driven character of the reception of continental theory in the Anglophone world, not on Zizek’s work itself and its being “ahead” or “behind” North American theory.

    As for Jameson being the clearest writer listed… I will let others judge whether Ben means that as a defense of Jameson or an attack on the others.

    Cheers, and I really do thank you for reading and commenting.

    Comment by Matt Klaassen — October 17, 2011 @ 12:49 pm

  4. I find it amusing that a postmodernist would use the phrase “caught up with.”

    Comment by Blue — October 17, 2011 @ 8:12 pm

  5. Matt,
    Thanks for responding to my dickish comment in a polite and reasonable way.
    Obviously this conversation falls very far outside of the scope of your article, but I’d just like to say that it’s not very wise to assume that something is superficial or incorrect just because it uses an esoteric language. Sabermetricians, of all people, should know this!

    Comment by Ben — October 17, 2011 @ 8:25 pm

  6. 1. Why?
    2. Who ever said I’m a postmodernist?

    Comment by Ben — October 17, 2011 @ 8:26 pm

  7. Sure. I’d just like to note that I don’t say that it is either superficial or incorrect. I’ve been known to use excessive jargon myself, something I wish I could avoid. But even when it is necessary or acceptable, I don’t think that exempts it from teasing, at the very least. Kant is a great thinker, but I’m sure even the most sympathetic readers of Kant would agree that his use of language was eminently mock-able!

    This is not to say I have no position on the issues of language or other things, but as you note, it is sort of outside the scope of the usual NotGraphs discourse.

    Comment by Matt Klaassen — October 17, 2011 @ 8:42 pm

  8. You’re right. Teasing is all in good fun.
    And I never mentioned how much I enjoyed your fake academic title.

    Comment by Ben — October 17, 2011 @ 8:50 pm

  9. Thanks for upstaging my birthday present for Eitan. Shout out on fangraphs always beats leather belt.

    Comment by Jen — October 18, 2011 @ 9:51 am

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