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  1. What about asking major league baseball players on twitter for a re-tweet? Will that also further my standing as an internet baseball writer? Seems like it would.

    Comment by Josh A — August 9, 2012 @ 2:10 pm

  2. I myself would be very interested in hearing the paths/stories of various Fan/NotGraphs writers. It would also save me the trouble of directly contacting you people, which sounds absolutely embarrassing and terrifying.

    Comment by Kyle — August 9, 2012 @ 2:14 pm

  3. I’ll offer my story.

    I started commenting on a forum called Braves-Nation.com, and after doing so for a lengthy period of roughly two years and meeting other nice Braves fans I decided to start my own blog to put my feelings and thoughts on the team. I didn’t know much about sabermetrics but as I kept writing and conversing with others (this was before my twitter days) I became more accustomed to stats and so forth, and began reading books like Moneyball and The Book.

    I saw a gap between where sabermetricians were and where the casual fan was, and felt that there should be some kind of hope for both sides to want to get closer rather than continue to separate. I wrote this post explaining my issues with the gap — it was horribly written looking back on it roughly two years later. Tom Tango ended up picking it up and he and his commenters shared their opinions, which can be seen on the attached link.

    http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/the_problem_with_saberists/, which some people agreed with and some people didn’t

    From there, someone from EPSN noticed it, I asked him how a young gentlemen who was recently graduating college would get a job at a place like ESPN. I applied for the job he suggested, got it and enjoyed it. Then from there I moved on to Capital Avenue Club as my career aspirations altered a bit and on to RotoGraphs/FanGraphs.

    It’s a lot about just wanting to do it and a lot about talking to people nicely and finding out why certain things are important and why other things aren’t.

    Comment by Ben Duronio — August 9, 2012 @ 2:28 pm

  4. Bradley Woodrum’s mustache devours unwanted guests.

    Comment by Well-Beered Englishman — August 9, 2012 @ 2:30 pm

  5. i, too, would enjoy a “how i became a fangraphs writer” column. so get on that, cistulli.

    Comment by kdm628496 — August 9, 2012 @ 2:36 pm

  6. With guns, knives, and parrots, that’s where we start?

    Comment by ERolfPleiss — August 9, 2012 @ 2:59 pm

  7. How do I become talented and handsome?

    Comment by kris — August 9, 2012 @ 3:21 pm

  8. Is the Hunter S. Thompson method looked upon favorably in the Internet baseball writing world? I prefer to snort a quarter ounce of blow while downing a fifth of bourbon and pacing the halls bellowing and mumbling about the inadequacy of others before producing minimalist content.

    Comment by deadhead — August 9, 2012 @ 3:22 pm

  9. I just started a blog a few weeks ago. After reading a ton and commenting on other sites/blogs I felt I was ready.

    Writing regularly is the hardest part, but also it is pretty much the whole point.

    It would be great to hear where all you fangraphs writers came from and where you plan to go after fangraphs

    Comment by Andrew T — August 9, 2012 @ 3:45 pm

  10. My glasses need washing. I thought “Imitate those writers,” was “Irritate those writers,” which seemed just right in a Cistulli piece. I was disappointed to find that it wasn’t “irritate.”

    –JRM

    Comment by JRM — August 9, 2012 @ 4:03 pm

  11. I don’t want to write, I just want to assign NERD points for a living.

    Comment by samuelraphael — August 9, 2012 @ 4:21 pm

  12. This is pretty great, actually. At the beginning of the season I had this great big pipe dream about being a baseball writer so I started being a baseball blogger. Twitter’s pretty much the perfect in-between for learning how to do it – you get to interact with everybody you read, and it’s so great to be able to see things like that happen.

    Comment by Ruhee — August 9, 2012 @ 4:49 pm

  13. Full circle here, but Carson may be the reason I’m writing for FanGraphs.

    Comment by Chris Cwik — August 9, 2012 @ 4:55 pm

  14. Is there some explanation for the slightly endearing yet ultimately harrowing picture showcased in this post? Are those a representative sample of the countenances of base-and-ball writers? Is it a shot of loyal readers of internet base-and-ball writers seeking to convey their unspoken approval for NotGraphs via the symbolic use of firearm and fowl? Are these the parents of Carson, used to show where baby internet base-and-ball writers come from? As always, Mr. Cistulli leaves more questions than answers.

    Comment by TheWrightStache — August 9, 2012 @ 5:12 pm

  15. if the answer to becoming an interwebs baseball writer is speaking out against the haters catullus-style: well consider me in.

    Comment by bbguns — August 9, 2012 @ 6:24 pm

  16. Rather than being a baseball writer, I want to be a baseball Statler and Waldorf, sitting high up in my ivory tower providing meta-commentary.

    Comment by RamboDiaz — August 9, 2012 @ 6:58 pm

  17. That’s precisely what occurred before the Notgraphs Company Picnic Family Photo that accompanies this post was taken.

    Comment by RamboDiaz — August 9, 2012 @ 7:02 pm

  18. don’t forget the ether. sweet, sweet ether.

    Comment by michael caine — August 9, 2012 @ 8:20 pm

  19. the writing daily part is the hardest part about any blog, but one of the most necessary parts for continued attention

    Comment by CFIC — August 9, 2012 @ 9:01 pm

  20. “I want to be a baseball Statler and Waldorf” is the best thing I have read today. Consider yourself Twitter-followed.

    Comment by Well-Beered Englishman — August 9, 2012 @ 9:20 pm

  21. A fifth of bourbon…lightweight…

    Comment by Ralph — August 9, 2012 @ 10:47 pm

  22. A couple extras:

    1) Keep a word doc with post/article ideas and add to it whenever the mood strikes. Whatever type of work

    2) Don’t be sad when you’ve been writing for 3 weeks and ESPN has not yet offered you a daily column. It takes a few years. If you’re good, someone will eventually notice.

    3) Pick a base genre. If you want to do hardcore stat stuff, go for it. If you want to do game reports, go for it. But once in a while, challenge yourself to do something in another genre.

    Comment by Pizza Cutter — August 10, 2012 @ 12:31 am

  23. I’m curious, though: at how many blog posts does an internet baseball writer’s quality become reliable?

    Comment by Carson Cistulli — August 10, 2012 @ 12:35 am

  24. Internet land, I offer you teh funny; please construct as you see fit.

    1) You are a baseball writer
    2) You write about the Pirates
    3) You write about said pirates for the sole purpose of making ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR jokes.
    4) You post one, maybe two, of those ARRRRRRRRR squared jokes in the comments section of a notgraphs post.
    5) If you find ARRRRRRR jokes tiresome and played out, you may, at your own discretion, make an ARRRRRRRRRRRRRR squared joke.

    Comment by Kris — August 10, 2012 @ 10:11 am

  25. What I want to know is, how do I become R.A. Dickey?

    Comment by Oliver — August 10, 2012 @ 10:31 am

  26. Congrats! You are NOW an Internet Baseball Writer. Everything else is just marketing…

    Comment by NatsFan73 — August 10, 2012 @ 12:01 pm

  27. Interesting stuff, Carson (and subsequent commenters). Producing regular content is certainly the hardest part of maintaining one’s own website, but equally, it is the most important aspect of it. Unless you are producing truly unique or brilliant stuff or are well connected to popular people on Twitter who will always share and rewteet your work, you’re never likely to develop much of a readership with just an article or two a week.

    As someone who is both British and only a relative newcomer to the game (but one who nevertheless enjoys baseball, writing, and writing about baseball), I’m almost certainly not typical of the type of person angling for a regular gig at the likes of ESPN, at whom this article is likely aimed. But having written about football (or, if you prefer, soccer) too, I can say that the challenge of producing content that is regular, stands out, and is of high quality is not confined to baseball.

    Comment by Merlin90 — August 10, 2012 @ 4:13 pm

  28. His link no longer works as of now…

    Comment by Person — August 10, 2012 @ 4:21 pm

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