Ty Cobb Would Like to Have a Word with His Great Grandson

So Ty Cobb’s great-grandson, who’s named Ty Cobb, plays hoops for Occidental College in Los Angeles. That’s cool. Young Cobb was also a heavily recruited left-handed pitcher in high school, but, well, let’s say he doesn’t share Great-Gramps’s enthusiasm for the most sacred of human endeavors:

“My heart wasn’t in it,” said Cobb, who is averaging 3.1 points and 2.9 rebounds in 13.6 minutes off the bench for Occidental. “In fact, I almost quit baseball several times. Basketball has been my favorite since I was really young. It’s always been what I wanted to play. It’s my true love.”

Given what we know about the original Ty Cobb’s competitive zeal and dedication to craft, don’t be surprised if he rises from the grave, kicks down the gates of the Rose Hill Cemetery and zombie-shuffles his way to So Cal, all to hand-deliver a vigorous spanking to the spawn of the spawn of his spawn. Or maybe the original Ty Cobb is merely smiling on approvingly, proud of his great-grandkid’s sense of individuality and quiet defiance. Probably the latter.

Then there’s this from Ty Cobb v2.0:

“It’s kind of a double-edged sword,” Occidental’s Cobb said of his name (he doesn’t share a middle name with his great grandfather). “Sometimes it’s cool. But sometimes I get a lot of unfair comments. Some people will say that Ty Cobb was a bad guy and he was a racist. I always have to explain to them that’s not true.”

Yeah, that’s got to get old. I don’t know whether Cobb was racist relative to the low standards of the times (after all, if, like me, you’re a board-certified white person of a certain age, then your great-grandpappy was probably on the racially insensitive side), but that has nothing to do with Occidental’s Cobb.

On this point, the lessons of Avenue Q are as penetrating as ever …



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Xave
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Worse ancestors to be named after: Hitler, Groucho Marx, Alexander The Great

Forrest Gumption
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Forrest Gumption

Seeing as Ty Cobb called an African American man “an uppity n*gger” then stabbed him, but got away with it because he was Ty Cobb, sorry dude, your gramps was as racist as anyone has ever been racist.

Coop!
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Coop!

Did Cobb stab the man because he was an uppity n*gger or did he just stab a black man and call him an uppity n*gger – one is clearly the act of a racist, the other is not. Agree?

Gringo
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Gringo

Cobb stabbed a lot of people with various instruments, and called a lot of people various nasty things, but there are two words in that two-word phrase that are inescapably racist.

Argive
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Argive

No, both of those are racist acts.

Truth
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Truth

*Citation needed.

Chris
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Chris

My question is this though:

What did the black elevator man say or do to Cobb? Given social norms (which doesn’t excuse them) the elevator man could have been ‘uppity’. Is that an excuse to punch some one? Not really, but how was Cobb’s temper? And though it’s not acceptable, stabbing a guy when it’s suddenly 2 v 1 is some what understandable.

I could see the argument that he was a racist based on these events, and I can see the argument that it had little to do with his racial views and more to do with a bad temper.

Either way, why bring up old news? Who cares if Cobb was or wasn’t a racist? How is it relevant to anything? I wouldn’t go up to Chelsea Clinton and start bad mouthing her parents. Sharing the name doesn’t mean you share in the guilt of your (grand)parents. Occidental Cobb shouldn’t have to even deal with that.

Grow Nerfowl
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Grow Nerfowl

Tomorrow’s headline: Police Sting Finds Occidental Cobb with Oriental Babe. As he was thrown into the paddywagon, Cobb heard shouting, “I am not a racist!”

Chris
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Chris

roflmao

mkt
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mkt

About 10 years ago, the Occidental College baseball team did have a player named Joe Hardy (you have to know about “Damn Yankees” to appreciate the name). He even made the all-conference team.
http://www.oxyathletics.com/halloffame/baseball/Honors

Tyler
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Tyler

Just like Americans were indoctrinated for most of the 20th Cent. to hate the Soviets and call them “Commies”, “Pinkos” and other harsh terms to dehumanize an entire nationality of people, they’ve also been indoctrinated to say and believe racist comments and beliefs. Ty Cobb was simply a product of his time and had be been born in 1982, instead of 1982, undoubtedly his worldviews would have been completely different.

God Bless Ty Cobb

LL
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LL

No excuse for stabbing a guy. Even people raised in a culture of racism should have been able to restrain themselves from doing such a horrendous thing. The guy was simpy a jerk to whites and blacks alike.

Tyler
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Tyler

My last posting had so many typos– had to fix them…

Just like Americans were indoctrinated for most of the 20th Cent. to hate the Soviets and call them “Commies”, “Pinkos” and other harsh terms to dehumanize an entire nationality of people, they’ve also been indoctrinated to say and believe racist comments and attitudes. Ty Cobb was simply a product of his time and had he been born in 1982, instead of 1882, undoubtedly his worldviews would have been completely different.

God Bless Ty Cobb

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