Jeter Is the New Manny

Derek Jeter and Manny Ramirez are about as different as could be. No one has ever referred to Manny as The Captain, nor will you see Jeter selling his neighbors grill on Ebay. Even as players, their skillsets are polar opposites. However, with each passing day in the negotiations between New York and their star shortstop, it looks like Jeter is poised to follow in Manny’s footsteps.

Two winters ago, Ramirez and the Dodgers engaged in the same dance that the Yankees and Jeter are now going through. The Dodgers made an opening offer of $45 million over two years, which Scott Boras labeled as not “a real offer”. Four months later, after finding out that not only was it a real offer, but it was the best one that he would get, Ramirez re-signed with the Dodgers for $45 million over two years.

It took until March for Boras to admit that he had no leverage, and to simply take the offer that the Dodgers had presented with minimal changes. The Yankees have now decided to employ the same tactic, with Brian Cashman publicly encouraging Jeter to explore the market and determine whether any team will do better than the reported $45 million over three years that New York is offering.

Jeter’s agent, Casey Close, can call this strategy “baffling” if he wants, but it worked for the Dodgers and I’d bet that it’s going to work for the Yankees. There is simply no other team in baseball that will value Jeter at a higher price than this. Close can argue for Jeter’s intrinsic value to the Yankee organization based on his status among their all-time greats, but those things don’t travel.

Try finding another organization that would bid more than $15 million a year for Jeter. The Red Sox already have one shortstop more than they need, and are shopping Marco Scutaro around the league. The Angels seem committed to Erick Aybar and are reportedly saving their pennies for Carl Crawford, Adrian Beltre, and Rafael Soriano. The Phillies have Jimmy Rollins, the Mets have Jose Reyes, and the Tigers already re-signed Jhonny Peralta.

There simply aren’t any big payroll clubs that would be in the market for Jeter’s services, near as I can tell. Would a team like the Nationals make a play for Jeter in order to make a splash? I guess it is possible, but I’d imagine Jeter doesn’t really want to finish his career playing in D.C. simply to get every last dime he can as a free agent.

When we did the Contract Crowdsourcing for Jeter, $45 million for three years is what you guys came up with. The Yankees agree that it’s a fair price for his value to their organization. Now, it’s just up to Close and Jeter to realize that they have no leverage. Hopefully, they don’t drag this out until March – take the deal, retire a Yankee, and everyone wins. They really don’t have any other options.

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kbertling353
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kbertling353

I didn’t like Jeter much to begin with (possibly because of the media). This is confirmation.

Frank
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Frank

Soooooo…. let me get this straight: There is a problem with a player – any player – trying to get as much as he can possibly get?

Doing what every other free agent tries to do when he hits the open market?

Granted, this is one of the most popular players on one of the most popular teams in media capital of the world, but this is much ado about nothing. Again…

Doug
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Doug

There’s a difference between trying to get as much as you can out of the free agent market and essentially extorting your team into overpaying you even more than they already are just because you know it will be a public relations disaster if they don’t sign you.

Not that I really care. This is what the Yankees deserve for overpaying players for so many years; sooner or later they’re going to end up with tens of millions tied up in old, useless players and will have nobody but themselves to blame.

JH
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JH

I’m not too inclined to be pro-Jeter, but this is a situation where I agree you can’t really place any blame on him for what he’s doing. This is the last professional contract he’ll ever sign. It’s his last chance to make a living doing what he loves to do. When this contract is done, he’ll start cutting red ribbons with giant novelty scissors for appearance fees, or he’ll do nothing at all. There’s nothing wrong with trying to get as much money as you can out of the deal. Even for a guy who’s set for life financially.

kbertling353
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kbertling353

It’s more of the sense that he is entitled to much more than his production justifies.

It’s kind of like that kid that gets a cushy job because his parents have connections. You don’t fault the kid for wanting a well-paying job, but that’s not going to stop me from thinking he didn’t deserve it. Jeter wants no part of the open market. He has a smug attitude that says the Yankees should pay him because of who he is, and that paying him based on actual production is an injustice.

Jonathan
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Jonathan

wow Doug…your ignorance is painful. how is he extorting his team? because he’s trying to get as much money as possible? The guy has one bad year and is a year removed from being a top 6 position player in baseball and all of a sudden he’s not worth anything.

Ya, this is what the Yankees get…what? what are they “getting”? And you’re right. they’re the only team that has ever overpayed anybody. Boo hoo…i hate the Yankees! They spend money! waaah waaah!! get over it.

Andy
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Andy

I think kbertling put it well. If all of this posturing is just a matter of the politics of negotiation, well, I guess that’s somewhat understandable (if undignified). But you get the impression that this isn’t just a show–i.e. that Jeter really believes that he deserves more money, and is indignant at the Yankees’ offer. In that case, I don’t see why we can’t be legitimately critical of him the same as with any spoiled child.

David B.
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David B.

Actually, if a player wants his team to win, it kind of is a problem for him to try to get as much as he can get, past the amount deserved. Every extra million makes zero difference whatsoever to Jeter’s lifestyle but it may mean the Yankees spend less on other complimentary players.

B N
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B N

I don’t see the big hubbub here either. I think what he’s doing is fine. So he wants more money than he deserves. Simple solution: Don’t give it to him. Nobody will offer him more. Nobody will offer him within 5m of it even. So, you just leave the offer on the table. Is Jeter going to take less money to play elsewhere? Retire?

All in all, I don’t think Jeter is doing anything bad. Mainly, I find it really funny. It’s kind of like if you go looking for a job, and you deserve something like 60k. And the guy looks you straight in the eye and says: “100k.” And you look at him and say… “That’s not a real offer.”

I mean… if anything, it’s dumb for Jeter. If I was that boss, I would then say “Oh, I meant 95k. Sorry.”

But anyways they both need each other, but Jeter is the one with the risk. What if the Yankees wait a while then say: “Naw… 40 million actually.” Or if he breaks his wrist stuffing a turkey this Thanksgiving. Jeter has stuff to lose. The worst the Yankees get is a media debacle (of which they always have many) and a cheaper shortstop.

Jonathan
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Jonathan

you’re letting your personal anti yankee/jeter feelings cloud your rationality. name one thing jeter has ever said that makes him an entitled smug guy. he’s trying to get as much money as possible. end of story..you know…kind of like every other guy in every other profession out there. why do you care what he gets paid? it doesn’t affect you. It won’t stop the yankees from getting other players. If you don’t like a squeaky clean player that plays hard, plays hurt and represents the game extremely well while being entirely about winning the obviously you have an irrational bias against him. That’s fine. Not everyone likes every player. But to concoct this bull story about him that isn’t based on any fact is just flat out stupid and pathetic. Once again. He’s trying to get as much money as possible and his agents are negotiating and using everything they can to make more. If you’re the type of person that doesn’t want millions of dollars then good for you. I hope you win the lottery so you can give me all the money.

kbertling353
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kbertling353

Strawmen everywhere

Baron Samedi
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Baron Samedi

Can you at least make an attempt not to write terribly? Maybe a paragraph or two? I can’t read this.

dnc
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dnc

Bug Jonathan, does he play hard?

dnc
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dnc

reply fail

*but Jonathan

hey
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hey

This isn’t river ave blues jonathan. It doesn’t fly here.

CircleChange11
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CircleChange11

I’m sure at your job, you always take less money than you are worth (IYO), even though you’ve ben a big reason why the company you have worked for has thrived.

People are irrational when emotions get involved. They feel something and THEN look for reasons to justify.

If you hate Jeter for looking to get max money, then you will basically hate everyone who gets the chance to do the same … I mean except for all those athletes that take less money even when they have other options. All zero of them.

kbertling353
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kbertling353

Cool false dichotomy bro.

Being a smug asshole that won’t settle for anything less than double what you’re worth vs. taking less than you’re worth. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of this, but there is such thing as being paid on merit.

I’m as much as a capitalist as you’ll find (Randian, even), but there’s a difference between demanding every last penny of what your production merits and what Jeter is doing. Again, I repeat, Jeter wants absolutely no part of the open market.

If I were the Yankees, I’d tell him 3/45MM is my max offer and give him a deadline. Let’s see him play for the Reds for 2/18MM.

wihargo
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wihargo

@kbertling353:

Isn’t ‘Randian’ a perjorative term for ‘Objectivist’? ;)

Good points though

Eric
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Eric

“I mean except for all those athletes that take less money even when they have other options. All zero of them.”

Baron Davis (NBA) signed for about 4 mil less per year to play in his hometown, and many other star players in every sport have willingly taken hometown discounts to stay with their respective teams in order to help their clubs–some even willingly take pay cuts in order to open up more money to either resign current teammates or sign new FAs…

Orangeman94
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Orangeman94

To add to Eric, see also Dawson, Andre and Wakefield, Tim

Eric F
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Eric F

…and Brady, Tom

Jeff W.
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Jeff W.

What’s wrong with him thinking that? For all we know this can all be the work of his agent. Whatever the case, he has the right to demand whatever he wants.

If you do believe in capitalism then you know he won’t get what he wants. The demand just won’t be there and therefore he will lower his asking price.

It’ll come down to the Yankees and how much they want to give. After he signs, this whole fiasco will just wash away.

David B.
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David B.

If capitalism really worked Barry Zito wouldn’t have over $100 million dollars.

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