And That Happened

Pirates 8, Brewers 5: Pittsburgh snaps their 17-game skid against Milwaukee, and the Brewers look pretty damn immature in defeat, plunking Jeff Karstens in what I guess was retaliation for him hitting Ryan Braun back in April. This despite the fact that they hit three Pirates the day after the Braun thing, and had an opportunity to hit Karstens if they wanted to the same day he hit Braun (why John Russell so frequently has his relief pitcher hitting is a topic for another day). Jason Kendall had to be restrained from, it appeared anyway, going after Pirates’ pitching coach Joe Kerrigan, and then after the game kept calling him “Dave Kurwin,” even after being corrected. So apparently Kendall is 6 years-old.

Athletics 14, Twins 13: You don’t win a lot of games when your starter gives up 11 runs on 10 hits in 2.2 innings, but the A’s did. Yep, the Twins led this game 12-2 at one point, but after Matt Holliday’s grand slam in the seventh, followed immediately by a Jack Cust solo shot, the lead was history. Largest blown lead for the Twins in 25 years. Largest comeback for the A’s in 84 years.

Dodgers 7, Reds 5: Jason Schmidt threw his first pitches in anger in over two years, and got the win to boot. Oh, and Manny Ramirez hit his 537th home run to pass Mickey Mantle into 15th place on the all-time list, which should inspire about 125 rage-filled, single-sentence paragraphs from Bill Plaschke or someone like him. Mantle was pure, you see. At least once you took away the booze and the speed and the painkillers.

Mets 6, Nationals 2: Jeff Francoeur! Livan Hernandez! Now if those two just keep on producing like we know they can, well, then, um . . . crap, this was a fluke, wasn’t it?

Phillies 10, Cubs 1: Now that is seems the Phillies have figured out how to win at home, there seems to be nothing that can stop them. Jack Nicholson was at the game, and according to the game story, the Phanatic wore a Batman suit. That’s kind of cool, but it would have been way cooler if he had dressed up like Nurse Ratched or the waitress who wouldn’t hold the chicken. I mean, I love Batman as much as the next guy, but Nicholson has had better foils.

Braves 11, Giants 3: The Braves hit Jonathan Sanchez and then continued hitting Segio Romo. Tommy Hanson, on the other hand, was much harder to hit (7 IP, 5 H, 3 ER, 11K). And as Mac notes, not all of those earned runs were really “earned.”

Astros 3, Cardinals 2: Carlos Lee hits a three-run homer, receives “stingy kisses.”

White Sox 4, Rays 3: Carl Crawford hit an inside the park home run, but as is the case with so many of those things, it was the product of a bad defensive play. In this case, a crappy jump by Scott Podsednik. Sox won, anyhow, and are only a game and a half behind Detroit.

Rangers 6, Red Sox 3: There are a lot of smart people working for the Red Sox, so surely someone will soon realize that John Smoltz only pitches effectively for a few innings and then falls apart. If only there were some place he could pitch where his outings would be shorter, and maybe more frequent as opposed to longer and more sucky (5.2 IP, 9 H, 6 ER).

Yankees 2, Orioles 1: Eric Hinske has started off with a bang in New York, hitting four homers in his first five games. Jose Molina turned in two sweet plays behind the plate late in the game. No need to congratulate him, though. He’s a Molina and that is what they do. Walkoff for Matsui, and after the game he was hit in the face with a cream pie. Those zany, zany Yankees.

Marlins 3, Padres 2: The Padres have lost 15 of 19. I’m assuming that will all turn around once Oscar Salazar gets a chance to play more.

Rockies 10, Diamondbacks 6: With Colorado’s win and the Giants’ loss, the Rockies take a half-game lead in the wild card standings. And no, I don’t think it’s too early to talk about it. There isn’t a ton going on right now, so I’m totally cool with getting an early start on pennant race stuff.

Angels vs. Royals: Postponed: The fitful alternations of the rain/ When the chill wind, languid as with pain/ Of its own heavy moisture, here and there/ Drives through the gray and beamless atmosphere.


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J.W.
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J.W.

Best thing about Percy Shelley? His awesome middle name: Bysshe. I wish that was my middle name.

Oh also, like many many others, he was outshone by his wife.

mike in brooklyn
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mike in brooklyn

There are people who still watch ESPN?  I made the mistake of looking at it last night to hear “coming up next: which reality show will be better Keyshawn’s or T.O.?”  I then burned Chris Berman in effigy (again!) and found a sports channel to watch

Jim D.
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Jim D.

How about the horrendous missed call to end the A’s / Twins game? Expand replay!!

Travis M. Nelson
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Travis M. Nelson
That A’s/Twins game was historic in another sense: I checked Baseball Reference.com, and since 1954 (as far back as their database goes for this stuff) there has never been a game in which the starter gave up 11 earned runs or more and the team managed to eek out a win.  The max is 10 ER, which has been done 6 times, 5 of them since 1997, and as recently as last year, when Pettitte gave up 10 against the Royals, but the Yanks won 12-11.  Jaime Navarro allowed 11 runs (10 ER) in 4.2 innings and his team won,… Read more »
David
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David

[text of comment deleted because it contained unfounded accusations of corruption that will not be tolerated here.  Suffice it to say that David thinks the umpire got the last call in the Twins-A’s game wrong.  That’s fine.  The rest of it was not.]

—Craig

Craig Calcaterra
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Craig Calcaterra

David—rail against bad umpiring all you want, but your accusations of actual corruption are beyond the pale.  If you have evidence for such a thing, great, advance it. Absent such evidence, however, your comments in that regard are potentially libelous and will not be tolerated here.

Jason B
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Jason B

But…we will still tolerate idle threats of Andy Dick punchin’, ne?

MB
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MB

Before you call a team immature, perhaps you should research the whole story.  Karstens getting beaned has more to do than just retaliation for him hitting Ryan Braun back in April.  It has more to do with most of the Pirates bench not knowing how to keep their emotions in check and their mouths shut during their losing streak to the Brewers.

Travis M. Nelson
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Travis M. Nelson

David’s comment wasn’t even accurate anyway.  He said he Cuddyer was called safe and he was called out.  He stated that MLB conspires to improve ratings in the playoffs (as evidenced by that big Red Sox/Dodgers World Series last year, or was it Cubs/White Sox?  I forget…)

It was a terrible call though.  I’ll post the link to the video showing the “tag” which was high and late, after Cuddyer’s foot had touched the bag.  The Ump didn’t know this because he decided to stand behind the catcher, where he couldn’t see anything. 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290720111

Craig Calcaterra
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Craig Calcaterra
Yep.  Because taken in context it’s quite apparent that the threat was, indeed, idle, and not serious.  Just as a snarky comment about how “man, who paid off the ump” comment after the Twins game wouldn’t reasonably be construed as libelous. David’s comments, however, were far more serious, far more specific, and were made with no apparent satirical, sarcastic, or humorous intent.  To the contrary, taken together with many of his other comments, there is every reason to believe that he was serious in his accusation of corruption. Ultimately this is my judgment to make, and I’ve chosen to err… Read more »
Travis M. Nelson
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Travis M. Nelson

I’ve seen karstens pitch.  Kid can’t throw hard enough to hurt anybody anyway.  Don’t see what they’re so bent out of shape about.

Drew
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Drew

Be fair, Craig.  Livan and Frenchy outperforming their capabilities had nothing to do with a fluke, and everything to do with the fact that they were playing the Nats.

David
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David
Craig, Give me a break.  First off, what I said wasn’t libelous because I wasn’t stating it as material fact.  It was my thoughts on MLB Inc.‘s incompetent and – in my confident opinion – corrupt umpiring.  So it’s just factually inaccurate for you to say it was libel, and so I have to wonder why the hell you would say that.  You know better. Secondly, I wasn’t just talking about last night’s game.  I was talking about a sweeping trend this season of flagrantly inaccurate calls which are going unmentioned by the mainstream media (and, apparently, censored by baseball’s… Read more »
Steve A
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Steve A

The White Sox are only 1 game behind the Tigers now, not 1.5 games.  🙁

Craig Calcaterra
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Craig Calcaterra
David: you said that the umpires are “quite probably” corrupt, and then you outlined a scenario that would describe the motive and direction of such corruption. There was no apparent humor or satirical element to it. In my judgment—and that’s the judgment of someone who has defended and pursued defamation cases in the past—that was too close to the line for comfort.  If I’m being too conservative in that estimate, fine, I’ll risk that rather than not being cautious enough. I have no problem with criticism of bad umpiring, and have never once edited or delted a comment about bad… Read more »
Jason @ IIATMS
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Jason @ IIATMS

Jack Marshall approves of this rant by David.

(just playin’ around, Jack!)

Jason @ IIATMS
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Jason @ IIATMS

Fifth Outfielder DEFINITELY approves of any anti-Craig rant.

David
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David
Obviously, it would be pretty selfish and narcissistic of me to get into a detailed discussion about my the nature of my comments, but I will say that I absolutely recognize and appreciate your tolerance with my posts.  There are a lot of mods at a lot of boards who love to commandeer the threads and punish posters and delete comments for no better reason than because they’re power-tripping losers, but THT has not behaved like that at all.  So I’m not trying to feign victimhood or anything like that, I actually feel pretty darn fortunate to be able to… Read more »
Jack Marshall
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No, actually, Jack doesn’t. The tendency to see malevolent power-elite conspiracies in everything, from history (Holocaust denial) to health (the CIA launched AIDS) to politics (LBJ was behind JFK’s death)to sports, is a toxic trend, and more damaging than mere libel laws can begin to address. Trust is the cornerstone of civilized society, and paranoia is like termites. Yesterday I heard Whoopi Goldberg, who presumes to make political pronouncements daily and has people who give weight to her views, opine that the moon landing was a hoax. People who whisper that everything is rigged and nothing is as it appears… Read more »
Jason B
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Jason B
And so…let the arms race begin to be fourth on the grand ol’ list!!  It will be at least as exciting as any wild card race. For what it’s worth, I think that we give people far too much credit for being able to carefully orchestrate and keep secret a vast and far-reaching conspiracy that requires knowledge and willful complicence from so, so many parties.  All it takes is for one cog in the machine to become disgruntled and blow the cover off. Methinks Occam’s Razor applies to most all of these conspiracy theories – one must ask oneself which… Read more »
Craig Calcaterra
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Craig Calcaterra
Fair enough, David. I agree that there have been some bad calls, and I am particularly bothered by what seems to be some player-baiting on behalf of umps.  Unless I’m given reason to believe otherwise, however, I don’t know that I have any choice but to view it as incompetence as opposed to something sinister. As for caution, I’ve been practicing law far too long to “err on the side of freedom of speech” when it comes to such matters. I think I do a pretty good job of that, but ultimate it’s my gut that has to guide me… Read more »
Jason @ IIATMS
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Jason @ IIATMS

Actually, Jack… I like that

Jason B
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Jason B
…or basically what Jack said.  More succinctly and just plain better than I did. Power-elite conspiracies titillate with endless speculation, and they are running rampant.  Compare that with the rather mundane notion that umps can at times be downright…human.  That just doesn’t soothe that “all the world’s against us!” itch in quite the same way. I remember a documentary on the History Channel a couple years back that outlined the key tenets of the JFK muti-party assassination conspiracy, and just eviscerated them one by one by one.  I mean, that house of cards was totally leveled by the time the… Read more »
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Fish

As for the Milwaukee/Pittsburgh incident, not sure if it’s accurate, but a poster on another site said Brewers didn’t take immediate revenge on Karstens in the previous game because both benches had been warned.  Same poster said the 3 HBP’s the next day were all curve balls, not purpose pitches-

David
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David
Jack Marshall: You’re so right, dude!  Trust is the cornerstone of civilization, and if anybody mistrusts the government, we must kill them.  The government never does anything bad!  Only wacko conspiracy theorists think that they do!  The government never murders.  The government never lies.  The government is as pure as the driven “snow”.  And we must always respect the military.  The government wants you to be healthy and to go forth and multiply. Yes, yes!  The government is great.  Where oh where would anybody ever get the crazy notion to distrust them? And our brave “servants” in the government are… Read more »
The Common Man
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I’m very intrigued by David’s assertion that “the only circumstances where umps would do that would be where they knew that they knew they were protected by MLB.”  First, I agree that the behavior of several individual umpires has been atrocious and constitutes baiting.  However, I don’t see how umpires would feel confident in MLB’s support these days more than they did in previous eras, when the umpire’s union was not in a contentious relationship with the league and the league was interested in finding ways to weed out incompetent and well-compensated umpiring (Questec, replay) and umpires.  It’s also important… Read more »
The Common Man
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The Common Man
I’m very intrigued by David’s assertion that “the only circumstances where umps would do that would be where they knew that they knew they were protected by MLB.”  First, I agree that the behavior of several individual umpires has been atrocious and constitutes baiting.  However, I don’t see how umpires would feel confident in MLB’s support these days more than they did in previous eras, when the umpire’s union was not in a contentious relationship with the league and the league was interested in finding ways to weed out incompetent and well-compensated umpiring (Questec, replay) and umpires.  It’s also important… Read more »
Jack Marshall
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Jack Marshall

David—-thanks for the fun links, especially the “Reason” piece (really outstanding magazine), which I had somehow missed, and can use. I’m hitting my head, because I should have figured you for an Alex Jones disciple. Oh—-arguing from the specific to a generality is a well-established logical fallacy…even more so when the specific incident involved is subject to multiple interpretations. It should go without saying that rejecting a sweeping generality that the government (or baseball, or any institution) is malevolent is not the same as asserting it “never lies” or “never does anything bad.”

David
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David
The Common Man: All MLB needs to do to protect umpires from intimidation by assault or harassment is to penalize players/coaches/management when they do assault or harass them.  There’s no reason they’d need to go above and beyond that bar and say that the umpires can actually assault and harass players, but not the other way around.  Further, MLB is lying in many instances.  MLB will say that a player bumped an umpire, when that’s a bald-faced lie.  You can show the video to a 5 year-old and say “What happened, Timmy?”  “The fat man in black pushed that man… Read more »
MooseinOhio
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Not that I don’t enjoy some good conspiracy conversations and wish I wasn’t in meetings all morning to enjoy the blog in real time but I would love to question the continued adherence to one of many of baseball’s unwritten rules – stealing when the game is out of hand. The reason I want to ‘question’ the rule is that last night’s A’s/Twin game as well as recent history (e.g. Marlins comeback against Arizona, Orioles v Red Sox) plus the Tribe has had several huge comebacks in the past decade no lead seems safe.  How many extra runs did the… Read more »
David
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David
Jack Marshall: You called me an “Alex Jones disciple”.  While you might be a disciple of media figures and politicians, I don’t have the same reverence for authorities that you have, and therefore disciple is an inaccurate word for me.  (I do try to be a disciple of Jesus, though.) Secondly, thanks for looking at the links.  However, it doesn’t really matter where information is coming from.  You might love Fox News and the ‘New York Times’ and lovingly defer to latent homosexual Glenn Beck or childless nothing Maureen Dowd.  That’s fine.  If their data is true, great.  (It’s usually… Read more »
Jack Marshall
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Jack Marshall

“Admirer”? “Follower”? “Fan”? “Acolyte?” Didn’t mean anything cosmic by the choice of word “disciple,” David—-sorry to offend. Let’s say you and Alex are on the same wavelength. (By the way, I have very low tolerance for both Glenn and Maureen. Guess again.)

David
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David
Jack Marshall: When good information comes via the ‘New York Times’, I agree with it.  When bad information comes via ‘The New York Times’, I disagree with it. When good information comes via Fox News, I agree with it.  When bad information comes via Fox News, I disagree with it. When good information comes via Reason.com, I agree with it.  When bad information comes via Reason.com, I disagree with it. When good information comes via InfoWars.com, I agree with it.  When bad information comes via InfoWars.com, I disagree with it. Several years ago, a friend – who’s a hard-working, honest,… Read more »
The Common Man
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The Common Man
You’re making a very large leap, David, to accuse the MLB of lying (I haven’t actually seen the MLB’s statement about Zambrano’s tirade, but if you and I are talking about the same Carlos Zambrano incident (the one where he ends up throwing a ball into left field), it’s pretty clear that Zambrano is the aggressor in that argument, as he pantomime’s throwing the ball down, runs up to the umpire, and is immediately in his face (by the way, that happened at Wrigley, which doesn’t support your argument that umps disproportionally favor the home team).  Frankly, from the video,… Read more »
Jack Marshall
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Jack Marshall

Sounds great. I agree. The problem is that our pre-existing biases, experiences, trauma and belief systems often make it impossible to determine subjectively what is “good” and “bad” information. I have no solution to this, and am obviously a victim myself. All we can do is recognize it, and try to make adjustments.

David
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David

(Just for the record, and I’m sure that this was obvious to anybody who read it, anyway, but when I wrote ”….if anybody mistrusts the government, we must kill them”, it was entirely sarcasm.  All human life is equally sacred.)

David
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David
TheCommonMan: First off, I never said that the umpires are only making their incompetent/corrupt calls in favor of home teams.  Indeed, one of the single most inexcusable cases happened against the Yankees at Yankee Stadium….and the player was Derek Jeter!  (That was the incident where the umpire told Jeter that he was out on a stolen base because the ball beat him to the bag.) Secondly, in the Zambrano incident, you’re (obviously) right in saying that Zambrano lost his temper and was due for a punishment.  But the umpire clearly bumped into Zambrano, not the other way around.  But the… Read more »
Dan
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Dan
Let’s get this out of the way first: David’s theory is completely loony.  I have a picture of a man in front of a big HD TV wearing a tin foil hat and screaming obscenities about the terrible “corruption” of competition he sees. My question goes to Craig: What is the current state of libel law regarding comments posted by a visitor to a website?  Is it established in the case law that the website can be sued for “publishing” the libelous statement?  TV networks and stations protect themselves when they sell blocks of time to infomercial hucksters and the… Read more »
tadthebad
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tadthebad

David,

Perhaps because it’s harder to land such blame on a general group (umpires) as opposed to one, or a few, bad apples.  Do umpires as a whole exhibit the type of behavior you suggest?  Not that I’ve seen, which isn’t to say there aren’t some incompetent umps.  And, as already reported in the comments, MLB has punished individual ump(s) for instigating fights.  Beyond that, do you have any reasonable suggestions?

MooseinOhio
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MooseinOhio
David- While I am not a follower of Glenn Beck and think he is wrong more often than right I am bothered by the ‘latent homosexual’ label you placed on him.  There was no reason to envoke such a label unless you meant to belittle him by questioning his sexuality, which is not supported by the evidence of his being married to a woman (twice for what it is worth).  Granted there are married men in the closet but at this point there is not evidence that I am aware of to support you claim.  Making such claims only hurts… Read more »
Craig Calcaterra
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Craig Calcaterra
Dan—The Communications Decency Act provides protection in this regard in that it states that “No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider”. Query, though, whether I or THT is a “service provider” under the statute. I haven’t researched it exhaustively, but I would not be shocked if a court interpreted that to apply to biggies like AOL and not proprietors of smallish websites. This is especially true given that I’m dealing with, what, a few dozen comments per post max, and that… Read more »
David
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David
Dan thinks my theory was “loony”.  I think that Dan’s statements look like the words of a phony retard. But wait a sec, what “theory” of mine was loony?  If I stated a theory, there must be a quote of it.  Please show cut-and-paste the quote where I laid out a theory. And what an imagination you have!  You think “conspiracy theory” and then (I can’t believe how clever this was) you made the association of “tin-foil hat”!  Boy oh boy, you should write novels with that kind of imagination! I like how then you try to suck up to… Read more »
Craig Calcaterra
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Craig Calcaterra

David—see, that’s exactly why people refuse to take you seriously.  I see this pattern with you in almost every thread:

1. Out-there comment;
2. Walk-back to normalcy and actual sense;
3. Revert to out-there comments.

I have no idea what goes on in your head that you retreat to the claims of impotence and accusations of homosexuality every time someone challenges you, but it’s fairly disturbing.  I hope by now, given the conversations you and I have had, that you don’t take this as an attack, but you sound like you need some kind of help, be it pharmaceutical or otherwise.

David
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David
Craig: That dude (a) lied and said that I proposed a theory, and (b) tacitly called me a “loony”.  If I say “Craig’s insults toward Julio Castillo are bigoted and racist”, I’m willing to bet that you’d be incredibly offended.  (A) You didn’t insult Julio Castillo, and (b) I’d be implying you’re a racist bigot.  I’m just sick of these retarded losers – who don’t observe anything worthwhile and can’t even formulate halfway logical arguments – insulting and disparaging me.  And, yes, I also get pissed off because there is a lot of evidence that the reason so many “men”… Read more »
Dan
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Dan
David, you’d be well advised to remember the adage about being thought a fool vs speaking and removing all doubt. I mean really – this is your response?  Criticizing a discussion (with a practicing attorney) about libel law in the internet age is sucking up to a site’s mods? And somehow I am now someone who “loves the government” and as a result, is impotent? BWAHAAHAAAHAAAHAAA You suggested I should be a novelist, allow me to suggest that you consider a career in stand-up.  Forget about MLB-umpire conspiracies, you’ve stumbled on the biggest one of all: The government knows that… Read more »
Jack Marshall
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Jack Marshall

Well good…I’m certainly glad the “loony” controversy has been cleared up.

Is David beginning to remind anyone else out there of “Gen. Jack D. Ripper”?

Dan
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Dan
So the self-proclaimed “disciple of Jesus” likes to throw around the word “retard,” something I know for a fact that those who work with learning disabled people regard as incredibly offensive. Is this what Jesus would say, David? I’ve only encountered your comments one time, here in this thread, and its painfully obvious that you do in fact need substantial help, whether psychiatric or pharmaceutical.  Who knows, you might even need help in that “special part of a man’s anatomy” – ever hear of “projection”?  Its when a person who feels shame over his own deficiencies projects those same deficiencies… Read more »
David
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David
Dan: Yes, Dan!  I’ll be the Tin-Foil Hat Comedian (“If you wanna stick, you gotta shtick!”)  But I’ll just be the opening act for the headliner: “Dan the Impotent Phony.”  I can see it now.  You strut out on stage, “Evening!  How are you folks doin’ tonight!  So this morning I was watching ‘Fox & Friends’ and I thought to myself, ‘Why do they have to put the ‘Friends’ in there?  Isn’t that like saying ‘Super-Large soda’? After all, ‘Fox’ is everybody’s friend!  Except for those loonies like David The Tin-Foil Hat Wearing Comedian.  They don’t have any friends!” Or… Read more »
MooseinOhio
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MooseinOhio

Serenity Now

Jason B
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Jason B

Glenn Beck is a latent homosexual?  I’m a practicing homosexual.  Which means that I’m all *kinds* of messed up.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that…

(Of course I use the term ‘gay’ to flippantly disparage people and things, too, and I am one.  So it’s not at all that I disapprove of the usage. People need to lighten up and take themselves less seriously.)

David
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David
You got me, Dan.  Like you, I’m impotent.  And, like, when I say that somebody else is lying, that actually means that I’m the liar.  That’s just so useful a rhetorical tool, I’ve gotta start using it. Let’s see what else is “projection”.  Like, if you call somebody a loony then actually you’re loony.  That’d be projection, right? Or, like, when Rush Limbaugh talks about how the evil Arabs are coming to kill Americans (because, of course, “they hate us for our freedom”) and that everybody who says he’s a liar is “weak” and “spineless”, but then it later turns… Read more »
Dan
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Dan

Congratulations, you are the looniest nut job I’ve had the misfortune of crossing paths with online. I mean, I’ve run into some crazies before but your ramblings are so insane and utterly nonsensical that it boggles the imagination.

So please continue – your insanity is quite entertaining.

David
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David

Dan:

You’re gay.

Wanna continue?

The Common Man
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The Common Man

“I’m just sick of these retarded losers – who don’t observe anything worthwhile and can’t even formulate halfway logical arguments – insulting and disparaging me.”

David, first, I’m sorry you feel persecuted, though that may have something (read, everything) to do with your tone and outlandishness.  And if you believe you’re making reasonable, logical arguments and world tells you you’re not making any kind of sense, I’d suggest the problem is within you and not with the rest of the world….

Unless we’re all out to get you.

Dan
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Dan

You are HYSTERICAL!!!!!!!!

Please keep it up.

In the meantime, I’ll just dream of the day you go out into the real world, encounter someone you don’t agree with, and then throw around words like “retard” and “you’re gay”.

David
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David
Dude, your act is old and transparent.  You’re trying to look like you’re too cool to be serious.  That’s fine.  You’re just an impotent fool and this is how you get your jollies: by telling lies online. That’s your thing, and that’s fine. But you told a lie about me.  I asked that you correct it, and you did not do so – which is expected, because there was no way you could substantiate it – and now you’ve refused to acknowledge or apologize for lying about me. You lied about me and insulted me.  Fine.  I consider the matter… Read more »
Craig Calcaterra
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Craig Calcaterra

Folks: let’s end this conversation right now.

New topic: anyone gonna take me to task over my comment that Smoltz should be in the pen?  Or is that just obvious at this point?

tadthebad
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tadthebad

Remember when this used to be a nice little baseball site?  That is, until it got taken over by the man…

ah, nostalgia.

Dan
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Dan
Wait a minute – you went so far off your nut because I said your “theory” was loony and you said “what theory?  Show me the theory!” and I didn’t do so? What is this if not a “theory”? ******************************* It was my thoughts on MLB Inc.‘s incompetent and – in my confident opinion – corrupt umpiring.  So it’s just factually inaccurate for you to say it was libel, and so I have to wonder why the hell you would say that.  You know better. Secondly, I wasn’t just talking about last night’s game.  I was talking about a sweeping… Read more »
J.W.
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J.W.
Actually Smoltz to the pen is an interesting and illustrative example to consider when thinking about putting pitches like Joba Chamberlain or David Price in the bullpen.  The arguments for sending Smoltz to the pen and sending Joba/Price to the pen are essentially the same: these pitchers are exceptionally good at pitching in short bursts, but not so good at the long-haul stuff.  The kicker, of course, is that Smoltz will only be sent to the pen as a last resort, when he’s proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that age and injuries have forced him to be a… Read more »
The Common Man
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The Common Man

Nope, your theory on Smoltz seems right on there, Craig.  It’s obvious that Major League Baseball is working with the umpires and the North Koreans to ensure that Smoltz is given juiced baseballs every time he hits the mound in order to make him accept a bullpen assignment and put Clay Bucholz in the rotation.  Duh.

Dan
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Dan
Craig, I am very distressed at Smoltz’ performance but I can’t see how you get enough value out of using him in the pen vs having him start.  He’s not replacing Papelbon, and at this point who even knows if he could replace the closest thing they have to a long man, Justin Masterson?  Can he throw multiple innings across four games a week?  And how much better will he be than what they already have doing that job? Rather I am afraid they have to keep him in the rotation and hope that better outcomes are around the corner.… Read more »
tadthebad
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RE: Smoltz.  Nah, I’d rather just keep running the guy out there every fifth game and see his BAA go from .200 the first time through the lineup, all the way to about .356 the second time through.  Then, after the game, Smoltz can keep telling the media he just had one/two/a few bad pitches, but otherwise he’s pleased with his progress.  That’s sound nice and all, John, but I think your dome ain’t letting in the requisite oxygen if you believe you’re actually progressing to a palatable level for the Sox.  This isn’t the NL East, Big John, this… Read more »
Craig Calcaterra
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Craig Calcaterra

TCM:  Stop being ridiculous.  Everyone knows that the Trilateral Commission and the reverse vampires are prominently involved.

The Common Man
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The Common Man

I am always forgetting about the reverse vampires.  Such is their power.

J.W.
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J.W.

What’s a reverse vampire? They can only go out during the day and they’re professional blood donors?

lar
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lar

I believe that vampires are the world’s greatest golfers but their curse is they’ll never get to prove it.

Travis M. Nelson
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Travis M. Nelson

This is boring.  I’m bored now.

MooseinOhio
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MooseinOhio
Smoltz to the pen makes the most sense however it may not be the Red Sox pen (though if I’m Theo it is).  If I were the Red Sox GM I would promote Buchholz to the starting spot vacated by Smoltz and have him hold the spot until DiceK is ready to come off the DL.  Give Buchholz some spot starts in place of Lester and Beckett (so they can rest) and if DiceK doesn’t look good give the spot back to Buchholz.  Trade Saito to a team in need of bullpen help and give his spot to Smoltz.  Use… Read more »
tadthebad
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tadthebad

Dan, you really think Huff would be so bad?  Without looking at the #s, he’s got to be performing better than Lowell, right?  Youk to 3rd, Huff at first, and bingo, improved lineup.  FWIW, I agree that the lineup is the item to be tweaked.

The Common Man
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The Common Man

“Getting San Diego to trade Gonzalez would be ideal as he is under contract (w/option) through 2011 and brings both a bat and glove.  Using some top chips makes sense for him.”

Moose, if I didn’t know better, I’d think you were one of the less rational members of the Red Sox Nation who thinks they can get Roy Halladay for Julio Lugo, Mark Kotsay, Michael Bowden, and the rights to Mike Greenwell (note:  substitute Matsui, Mitre, Austin Jackson, and Mickey Rivers for members of the Yankees Universe).

Dan
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Tad, I just don’t think Huff is worth giving up anything for.  He probably is a little better overall than Lowell, but as a lefty – and dead pull hitter – he wouldn’t be coming to a team that plays in a park conducive to his swing.  On the other hand, Mikey has figured out how to hit in Fenway, and I actually think he’s going to hit well down the stretch as long as the hip doesn’t become a factor again. Common Man, please note that Moose did say “some top chips” for Gonzales.  I’d definitely be open to… Read more »
Dan
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Dan

And just like that, Wakefield is on the DL with a lower back strain and Clay starts Wednesday in his spot.  No indication how serious this is, if its minor, its possible he wouldn’t miss much time since it would be retroactive to his last start before the break.

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Kevin S.

TCM, I know you’re going after the less rational Universers, but this Yankme fan (c’mon, you all know you call us that) thinks that it would take Montero, Jackson, Brackman, and one of Joba/Hughes… and it still might be worth it.

Alex K
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Alex K

RE Gonzalez: The Padres have no reason to trade him unless they are totally blown away.  I wouldn’t be totally shocked if they ask for Buchholz and Anderson. 

I guess that is a roundabout way to say the Sox have almost no chance to get Gonzalez. Because I seriously doubt that Theo would do that.

The Common Man
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The Common Man

Just teasing the Moose.

TC
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TC

To be, ahem, phair to the Phanatic: he has a history of dressing in drag, and since most of his intended audience is watching him at a considerable distance, seeing a big, green monster in a white hat and skirt might not be as immediately recognized as, ya know, Batman.  The Phanatic is a populist; Two-percenters don’t become him.

Dennis Koziel
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Dennis Koziel

I believe the Yankees have a great home advantage, with the tendency of their park to give up homers and them batting last and everything.  I think we’ll see a few more walk-off homers before the season is done, and perhaps ESPN will only spend 15 minutes, versus the entire show, on the “phenomenon.”

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