Oil Can to Ottawa?

The Voyageurs of the Can-Am league may be adding a veteran to their staff:

Dennis “Oil Can” Boyd, who has been known to say a lot, once said that he wanted to be “playing baseball at age 50 — if not professionally, for a semi-pro or local team.”

Boyd thinks he was 10 years old when he said that. Almost 40 years later, 18 seasons after striking out his last major league hitter, and seven months shy of his 50th birthday, the colourful Boyd hopes to realize his dream in Ottawa with the Cam-Am Baseball League Voyageurs . . .

. . . “The ball is coming out of my hand free and easy for the first time in years. I just want to prove I can throw 100 pitches for 30 starts and dominate.”

He said he still has his repertoire of fastball, 12-to-6 curve, changeup and screwball, and that he’s adding a “hard” knuckleball.

He had me at “knuckleball.”

(thanks to Neate Sager for the heads up)


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Jason @ IIATMS
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Jason @ IIATMS

Is it wrong that I thought it was the Can-Am Voyeurs? 

/Never coming here again directly after hitting Deadspin

Wooden U. Lykteneau
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Wooden U. Lykteneau

It’s a legit story. I saw him pitch several times in 2005. Obviously, he’s transitioned into a junkballer, but he was able to make guys half his age look foolish primarily because he consistently throws for strikes (12BB in 110.1 IP), and most guys in indy ball are “cripple” hitters.

bpasinko
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bpasinko

Put him in Petco, see what happens

Pete Toms
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Pete Toms

Opening Day in Ottawa is May 28!  Lookin forward to “The Can” toin the rubber!

Most guys in this league are recently released from A ball (and at that, were organizational players). 

The second seasono of Can-Am in Ottawa is more than 2 months away and yet the club is on its 3rd nickname!  Welcome to the indy world.

Better than no ball at all.

Wooden U. Lykteneau
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Wooden U. Lykteneau

*sigh*

The plurality of players in the Can-Am League are collegiate players that went undrafted. This is because roster rules *require* that a *mininum* of five (5) players out of the 22-man roster be rookies (read: less than 75AB for batters, 30IP for pitchers)

Those same roster rules also limit teams to no more than four veterans (more than five seasons of professional baseball) and no more than four players with four-plus seasons of professional experience.

That means that 14 of the 22 players on Can-Am League roster have spent three (3) seasons or fewer in professional baseball, independent or affiliated.

Aaron Moreno
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Aaron Moreno

I think Pete being only half-right definitely deserved the *sigh*.

Pete Toms
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Pete Toms
Wooden, I don’t know if we agree on the definition of “organizational player”.  I define it as not being considered a prospect.  I don’t think the amount of their experience in affiliated ball impacts on that.  I.E.  I watched AAA here for 15 years and saw hundreds of “organizational” players who had long careers in affiliated ball. (damn good players too)  I don’t think these players in the Can-Am released from low or hi A were considered legit prospects.  I’m a pretty avid BA reader and I never recognize the names of these guys. BTW, which Can-Am city do you… Read more »
Wooden U. Lykteneau
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Wooden U. Lykteneau
Pete – I define it as a guy that’s too old for his level or has been with the organization for more than three years. Generally speaking, that’s 24 years old for high-A, 23 for low-A. For AAA, I’m sure those definitions are different, but usually a guy that makes it to AAA for any appreciable time will almost always be classified as a veteran by the Can-Am League. Guys that also make it that high generally end up in the Atlantic League, and even guys with AA experience are few and far between. I did notice that the league… Read more »
Pete Toms
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Pete Toms

Wooden, Atlantic League is definitely vastly superior to the other indy leagues.  It is pretty much a 4A league. 

Is Can-Am stable?  I read that league attendance was down significantly last year.  Our local owners went bust after 1 season and the league is operating the franchise now…I know there is new ownership in Nashua? also (Duquette’s group) and maybe one other city?  I know this isn’t unusual in the indy realm.

Wooden U. Lykteneau
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Wooden U. Lykteneau
Pete – The Atlantic League is indeed a 4A league; it promotes and positions itself as much. The CanAm is probably more stable than your average indy league, but that’s like saying upstate N.Y. isn’t losing jobs as fast as Ohio. Two of the franchises (New Jersey, 1998 and Quebec, 1999) have been operating continuously since the late 1990s. A third franchise, Brockton, has been operating since 2002. Two other franchises are refugees from the Atlantic League—Atlantic City and the team formerly known as the Nashua Pride (Dan Duquette is now a part-owner). However, both franchises have been operating continuously… Read more »
Pete Toms
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Pete Toms

Wooden – wow, you are up on your Can-Am. 

Agreed, Wolff is operating the team here because the alternative is a “road only” franchise again.  Also because he owns the Quebec City franchise (the most successful in the league) he has an interest in seeing Ottawa take root.  He also has aspirations to expand to Montreal but there is no suitable facility there.

Last season’s owners recently filed a Statement of Claim against Wolff, the league and some of their executives, the City of Ottawa…..you can read it here if you want (I’ve only yet scanned it)

cheers

http://canamottawa.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/kennedy-the-moon-landings-area-51-and-the-rapidz/

Pete Toms
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Pete Toms

Wooden, guess I’m wrong.  I knew there were roster rules but obviously I’m not up to speed on them.  I thought a lot of the guys here last season were A ball refugees, but I guess they weren’t.

Wooden U. Lykteneau
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Wooden U. Lykteneau

Most of the guys with affiliated experience (that aren’t veterans) are A-ball flameouts, but you wouldn’t call them “organizational guys”—they usually have only one or two seasons’ experience.

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