Ichiro strike three

Ichiro Suzuki was ejected in the fifth inning of today’s game against the Toronto Blue Jays after demonstratively arguing a called strike three. In addition to comments to the umpire, Suzuki drew a line on the ground with his bat to show Brian Runge where he thought the pitch had gone.

Ichiro Suzuki points where he thought the pitch was located.

I grabbed some still shots of the pitch crossing the plate, but with camera angles, it’s impossible to tell whether a pitch so close to the edge of the plate was a strike or not. So what did the PITCHf/x tracking system say?

overhead view of pitch path with respect to the home plate

The path of the baseball as tracked by PITCHf/x is shown by the red lines. (The baseball is 2.9 inches in diameter.) PITCHf/x has been shown to be accurate within half an inch, so the gray lines outside the red lines indicate the possible location of the baseball given the margin of error inherent in PITCHf/x measurements near home plate.

It’s close enough that Ichiro Suzuki probably shouldn’t have taken the pitch. The umpire’s going to call that pitch a strike to a left-handed batter at least half the time. The cost of a strike in that situation was the second out of the inning with a runner on third base, costing the Mariners something like 0.6 runs on average. The gain from taking a ball, moving the count from 0-2 to 1-2, is miniscule by comparison, something like 0.025 runs on average.

In this case, he was bailed out by a wild pitch that scored Adam Moore from third during the next at bat, but it wasn’t a good bet on Ichiro’s part, nor did he have a particularly good case with the ump.


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Ron
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It might not have been a particularly good bet on Ichiro’s part but how can you say “nor did he have a particularly good case with the ump.”? PITCHf/x shows it clearly was a ball (oh error margin shows that maybe 2 mm of the ball MIGHT have caught the plate) Hitters as good as Ichiro (how many are better?) like good pitchers usually get the benefit of close pitches (remember how tiny Bonds’s strike zone was?).The pitch wasn’t even coming back towards the plate but was heading away from it. 95 out of 100 umps call that a ball… Read more »
Mike Fast
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Mike Fast

If the edge of the ball catches the corner of the plate, that’s a strike by the rulebook. 

I’d estimate from PITCHf/x data that umpires call that pitch a strike about 60-80% of the time.  Definitely too often for Ichiro to take it.

I say he didn’t have a good case because it was RIGHT on the corner and he was arguing that it was three or four inches off the plate.  The umpire might have erred by a quarter or half inch, but Ichiro’s judgment was off by three inches.

High Ping Bastard
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High Ping Bastard

Incredible streak broken. Nice graphic.

ps. Do you recall when Sammy Sosa got ejected because he dragged his bat across the plate… he wasn’t indicating where the pitch was

Ron
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If the edge of the ball doesn’t catch the plate then that’s a ball by the rulebook. Looking at the chart I’d say the odds are pretty good it’s a ball. But regardless of if it did or didn’t the question is how often is that pitch called a strike on Ichiro? Great hitters get the doubt (like great pitchers) more often than an average hitter does. There is now way of proving it of course (though I would love to dig into the PITCHf/x data)but I would say it was entirely reasonable from Ichiro’s point of view that the… Read more »
Mike Fast
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Mike Fast

Every pitch that Ichiro has taken this year located within two inches of today’s strike three has been called a strike.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/images/uploads/ichiro_zone.jpg

Thanks to Trip Somers of TexasLeaguers.com for the PITCHf/x strike zone information.

welshman dan
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welshman dan

i think claiming “the ump blew it” is a bit ridiculous.

that pitch could have been called either way.

if i’m an umpire and the pitch that close, there’s no way i’m going to put up with a batter standing there holding up the game to draw a line where he thought the pitch was.  that’s garbage.  a veteran like ichiro should know better.

Nick Steiner
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Nick Steiner

Wow, Trip Somers’ pitch f/x website is like Dan Brooks’ on speed.

Dan Novick
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Dan Novick

nick,i was having the same exact thought.

Jesse
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Jesse

“The gain from taking a ball, moving the count from 0-2 to 1-2, is miniscule by comparison, something like 0.025 runs on average.”

What’s neglected here is the fact that on a 0-2 count the umpire is far more likely to call that pitch a ball than in any other count.

http://bjays.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/strikeouts-are-fascist-walks-too/

Mike Fast
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Mike Fast

Jesse, you are correct that I neglected that effect.

However, according Jonathan Hale’s study that you linked, the typical ump only calls 3% more balls than average at the 0-2 count.  So that’s a relatively small effect.

Jim Casey
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What irritates me about this is that it is generally accepted that the umpire ejected Ichiro because he “showed him up.” The umpire’s own bad calls show him up, and everyone sees them, not just the players involved. What needs to change is the quick triggers and tempers of many umpires. Too often I see umpires start arguments, or keep them going, just to get more face time on TV. These umpires need to be disciplined, or fired. They need to learn to be more like football referees in this regard. We know football players complain about calls at least… Read more »
Nick Steiner
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Nick Steiner

Mike, 3% extra balls is actually a pretty big deal.  Awhile back Dan Turkenkopf found that the RV of switching a ball to a strike was .133 runs. 

http://blog.stealingfirst.com/2008/05/01/revisiting-the-run-value-of-switching-a-ball-to-a-strike/

Mike Fast
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Mike Fast
Nick, for a typical batter-pitcher matchup and game situation in 2007-2009, I have the run value of the 0-2 count at -.105 runs.  I have the 1-2 count at -.081 runs, and a strikeout at -.292 runs.  So a ball in that situation is worth +.025 runs and a strike is worth -.187 runs.  That means, on average, you should take only if you think the pitch will be called a strike less than 12% of the time. Now in this specific case, the cost of the strikeout is higher (by about 3x) because of the runner at third with… Read more »
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