Trousers and Hot Tubs

I won’t link to the original source because there’s some arguably not safe for work stuff there, but the website sportsimproper.com has Brian McNamee making the whole Clemens affair sound even seedier than it already did:

One of the needles I gave the government was used to inject Clemens with steroids in either July or August of 2001,” McNamee was quoted as saying by sportsimproper.com in an item posted Wednesday. “The place was his high-rise apartment, which is located off the corner of 90th Street and First Avenue in Manhattan.

“That day, he laid out the drugs, dropped his trousers and I did as he asked, that is, inject him with steroids. Afterwards, he told me to get rid of the needle. I went into the kitchen and found an empty Miller Lite can in a wastebasket under the sink. I put the used needle into the can because it was actually hazardous material at that point and I didn’t want anyone to get hurt by sticking themselves. He told me to throw it away but I kept it instead”. . .

. . . McNamee previously described injecting Clemens at the pitcher’s apartment to baseball investigator George Mitchell. In addition, he told the Web site: “Sometimes it was in the Jacuzzi at Yankee Stadium.”

Can someone please put a gag order on everyone who has ever been within 15 feet of Roger Clemens? Because I really don’t think I can handle much more of this.


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Jason @ IIATMS
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Jason @ IIATMS

All the way up on 90th?  Man, $23m a year doesn’t go as far as it used to.

Chris H.
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Chris H.

Jason, can you explain that to us non-New-York types?  I wanna get the reference, I wanna I wanna!

Aaron Moreno
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Aaron Moreno

I still don’t know what the hell a borough is. Is it a city or just a suburb? A suburban city?

Craig Calcaterra
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Craig Calcaterra

Yeah, Jason: Isn’t 90th and 1st the upper east side?  Where does the exlusive part of that area end?

As for boroughs, I was pretty sure that was the Spanish word for donkey.  If I’m wrong about that too, Jason, please let us know. wink

Vin
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Vin
90th and 1st is fairly exclusive, but not quite $23-million-per-year exclusive. The UES of the super-rich is generally below 86th St. and between the Park and 3rd Avenue (maybe even Lexington). Not to say that the area around isn’t exclusive, too. It’s just, let’s say, super-exclusive as opposed to super-duper exclusive. Oh, and Aaron, a borough is just a name for the administrative divisions in the city. All the boroughs were in fact independent prior to consolidation in 1898. They are all separate counties, even to this day, and prior to consolidation most of them contained more than one municipality,… Read more »
Jason @ IIATMS
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Jason @ IIATMS
Sorry guys…. That is part of the upper east side.  From the mid 60’s, east of 5th to the East River, up to about 96th street is the “upper east side”.  It’s more exclusive closer to 5th ave.  Moving east from 5th, it goes down in price (though still VERY pricey), then up right along the East River for the views.  In order, heading East: 5th, Madison, Park, Lexington, 3rd, 2nd, 1st, York, East End Ave.  The further north you go, the cheaper it gets.  96th Street is sort of the dividing line between Manhattan and the beginning of Harlem. … Read more »
Jason @ IIATMS
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Jason @ IIATMS

And yes, the borough of Manhattan doesn’t consider any of the other boroughs part of NYC.  If you aren’t in Manhattan, you are from the “outer boroughs”, or part of the B&T;(bridge and tunnel) crowd.  Derogatory terms, to be sure.  NYers didn’t wrongly get their snobbery title.

In other words, if you aren’t in Manhattan, you are a country bumpkin, or just a wannabe.  The worst of them call everything outside NYC “upstate”, even if it’s Westchester, where I am, 30 minutes drive time from midtown.

YankeesfanLen
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YankeesfanLen

I can’t imagine how I’m viewed in Bergen County (thankfully, next to Iowa, not Lodi).
BTW, Craig, what happened last Fri- you left us in suspense.

Craig Calcaterra
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Craig Calcaterra

Len—if you’re referring to my hearing, it was anti-climatic.  We show up, other side shows up, and then instead of the judge, the law clerk comes out and says that the whole thing was being converted into an impromptu status/settlement conference because the Judge was stuck in a jury trial.  And for that I wore a suit on jeans day.

Rescheduled for this Friday, so we get to do it all over again.

Did I mention that the law often sucks?

Ralph
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Ralph

Jason, Jeter lives in Trump World Tower on 1st Ave across from the UN.  IIRC, ARod lives in the same building.

I’d bet that Clemens had a whole floor on one of those highrises that are up there.  That’s the only reason that I can come up with for why he’d be living up there.

And yes, anything north of the Bronx is “upstate”.

Alex K
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Alex K

Wow, I would hate to hear what they call us out here on Long Island….

Jason @ IIATMS
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Jason @ IIATMS

Alex: I work out here on Lon Gisland.  (Spelling intentional).

You’re part of the B&T;crowd.  Just like Joisey.

Aaron Moreno
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Aaron Moreno

So, are they administrative portions of the city, or are they counties? I mean, I live in a city, and it’s in a county.

Vin
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Vin

They’re administrative divisions of the city, really. The counties don’t matter much.

The system is kind of strange, but it’s basically a vestige of the fact that what is today the five boroughs of New York City were once five separate counties with a number of different jurisdictions. So now there’s boroughs and the city. The boroughs have very little power, though.

Oh, and as a lifelong outer-borough guy, I’ve never considered that phrase an insult. Even “B&T;” isn’t necessarily an insult, depending on the context. And Westchester isn’t upstate, but everything north of it is.

J. McCann
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J. McCann

I think New York must be the only city that contains five counties.  There are (were?) some odd powerful committees that had one vote per borough, but I think they have been declared unconstitutional.

That’s messed up that people in Manhattan describe their city as “New York”, while each of the other boroughs use the borough name as the city on envelopes.

In some areas of Staten Island there are so many trees or grassland, that you really can’t believe you are still in NYC.  Not fair that they left Staten Island out of GTA4.

Alex K
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Alex K

Jason: I would have gone with Looon Gisland.  As a non-native I find the accent just as awful as everyone else.

Melody
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Melody
I lived in Queens for five years, and some of our Manhattan friends never once made it out to our place—we always had to come in to see them in Manhattan!  This even though we lived in Astoria, which is easily 20 minutes from midtown on the train.  AND we were just 2 blocks from the famous outdoor Beer Garden. Everyone else has explained the boroughs/counties stuff… the other funny thing is that some of the counties are named differently from the boroughs. Staten Island = Richmond County Manhattan = New York County Brooklyn = Kings County Queens = Queens… Read more »
Bill B.
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Bill B.

Re: McNamee, am I the only one who finds it odd that he just decided to keep the used needle? At that time, what reason did he have to keep it, since he obviously couldn’t see into the future and know that that needle would actually be crucial evidence in a federal case against Clemens?

Everything about these steroid witch hunts reeks of foul play.

Vin
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Vin
J. McCann: You are referring to the Board of Estimate, under which each borough president received one vote. Seeing as the boroughs have vastly different populations (Brooklyn, the most populated, has about 2.5m people, Staten Island, the least, has about 500k), the body was ruled unconstitutional for violating the principle of proportional representation. I have no qualm with that in and of itself, but it’s kind of ironic that the Senate – an established constitutional body – does exactly the same thing. Wyoming has two senators, and a population roughly equal to that of Staten Island. Melody: Queens is the… Read more »
Dr Paisley
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Dr Paisley

There’s an incredibly tasteless joke somewhere in all this about the subsection of NYC where lives the specialist everyone goes to for circumcsions, and he’s known as the Mohel Borough Man, but it’s more work than I’m willing to do at this point.

Evan
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Evan

So half a mile away from me seven-plus years ago, that happened? The fun stuff always closer than I think. 🙁

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